Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of OmniTree

Moderator: (Elwynn) Prince of Elwynn

User avatar
Orion
Full of shi... err.. stars!
Posts: 2673
Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:55 pm

Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of OmniTree

Post by Orion »

Senators,

The nationalization of OmniTree Group is both unconstitutional and a violation of the free market of Elwynn. Who's next? Red Bear? Anyone? Everyone? The actions of Msrs Melang go against all protocols and procedure. Any such order should be introduced to this Senate first for review.

I move that the order of Giles Melang, nationalizing OmniTree Group, be immediately overturned and that all property confiscated be returned to OTG.

Elijah Ayreon
Posts: 2709
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:26 pm

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Elijah Ayreon »

Senators,

I lend by full support behind this motion!
Elijah Ayreon-Dariolin of Waffle-Paine (no longer with us)

Ric.

User avatar
Jacobus Loki
The plaything of capricious Archons...
Posts: 1982
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:52 am

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Jacobus Loki »

I am awaiting a response from Mr. Melang regarding this action. I ask that the executive be allowed to pursue its internal process before the legislature becomes involved.

Thank you.
Jacobus Loki

Once and Future King of the Ma'alanje
Prophet of Loki, Wielder of the Sword of Madness

Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est.

Tarjei Einhornsson
Posts: 369
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:13 am

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Tarjei Einhornsson »

I join my fellow Senator, Ryan Ilios, in voicing my utter distaste of this arbitrary and illegal action. I wish to propose an amendment, that Mssr. Melang be impeached for the gross misuse of his powers.

Elijah Ayreon
Posts: 2709
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:26 pm

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Elijah Ayreon »

Senators,

With respect to the Prince, perhaps he could just "suspend" the orders pending his review? How long that review may take God knows, but at the very least the Prince should suspend them and demand in the strongest terms an explanation for Mr Melang.

In fact, if Mr Melang remains in the Council of Eliria after this, I will have lost all confidence in the government of Prince Jacobus Loki.
Elijah Ayreon-Dariolin of Waffle-Paine (no longer with us)

Ric.

User avatar
Orion
Full of shi... err.. stars!
Posts: 2673
Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:55 pm

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Orion »

Senators,

I agree with Lord Aryeon, in that at the very least a suspension of the order should be issued by the Prince in order to fully review and assess the legality of Msrs Melang's actions.

Elijah Ayreon
Posts: 2709
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:26 pm

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Elijah Ayreon »

Senators,

May I draw your attention to this?
Image
Apparently, we can strike deals with the Prince to achieve justice.
Elijah Ayreon-Dariolin of Waffle-Paine (no longer with us)

Ric.

User avatar
Jacobus Loki
The plaything of capricious Archons...
Posts: 1982
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:52 am

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Jacobus Loki »

Proves you cannot be trusted with a confidence, even one OOC.
Jacobus Loki

Once and Future King of the Ma'alanje
Prophet of Loki, Wielder of the Sword of Madness

Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est.

Elijah Ayreon
Posts: 2709
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:26 pm

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Elijah Ayreon »

I rarely do it, but I felt it was merited to do so now. This madness has to stop.
Elijah Ayreon-Dariolin of Waffle-Paine (no longer with us)

Ric.

User avatar
Jacobus Loki
The plaything of capricious Archons...
Posts: 1982
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:52 am

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Jacobus Loki »

Then why in the name of all didn't you remain as Prince? You rebelled against Erik for using Shireroth as his own toy, but what have you done but to do the same thing in Elwynn?

Not that it makes much difference, but the Senate should see this.

http://bastionunion.org/forum/viewtopic ... 036#p69036
Jacobus Loki

Once and Future King of the Ma'alanje
Prophet of Loki, Wielder of the Sword of Madness

Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est.

User avatar
Scott Alexander
Posts: 1778
Joined: Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:20 am

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Scott Alexander »

I agree with Senator Ilios. I voted for this Prince in order to return to limited government as spelled out in the Charter. This is not what I was promised, and although Rei Milharna's quest for a Senate seat is worthy, this is not the way to achieve that goal.

My constituents are now worried about losing their own companies. A Jingdaoese food restauranteur wrote me a letter that he runs the only Jingdaoese food establishment in North Eliria - will his business be declared a monopoly and taken over by the State? Eliza Ra-Lariat asks how she knows that the government will not try to nationalize the broadcasting company she has been running in her father's stead. An economy in which everyone fears the profits of their labors will be taken from them is a stagnant economy. And the importance of OmniTree to the defense of this nation makes it an unworthy target for political footballing.

I announce I will support Senator Ilios' motion if it comes to a vote, but I hope that the Prince sees reason and that it does not come to that.

Tarjei Einhornsson
Posts: 369
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:13 am

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Tarjei Einhornsson »

I wish to state that, if this arbitrary and unconstitutional action by Giles Melang, OmniTree Group will reconsider moving it's headquarters back to Normark. It is beyond sickening that such action was taken against a company which has only ever served the public good. The accusations made by the Councillor were both slanderous and hurtful to the pride and reputation OmniTree Group AS and its predicessors had worked so long to build and maintain. In the name of the common good, a slanderous guise for his own vendetta against OmniTree Group AS, one of Elwynn's most productive and successful companies has been alienated.

Tarjei Einhornsson
Posts: 369
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:13 am

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Tarjei Einhornsson »

I would like to direct the Senate's attention to this:

http://www.bastionunion.org/forum/viewt ... 953#p68953

I have reason to believe that the sanctions against my company were nothing more than the abuse of his power as Councillor of the Exchequer to wrest control in his old company. Having lost most control over it long ago, due to being frivolous and wanton with share sales, we must consider that the purpose of his actions were to seize OmniTree Group assets to fulfill his own, personal agenda with CWG.

If this is true, we must consider the possibility of criminal charges against Herr Melang. This kind of abuse of power is, not only unbecoming of a Senator, but an affront to Elwynn and its people. Did we not just get over a bribery scandal involving a foreign power?

Emir of Raspur

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Emir of Raspur »

Gentlemen,

I must caution the Senate that this is rapidly becoming a matter for the Courts.

I must also express my regret and consternation at the alleged attempt by His Serenity to seek advantage from this situation.

Thadeus Laing
Sea Elf, Sea Elf Run
Posts: 2247
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:33 am

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Thadeus Laing »

Senators,

I have prepared several statements in regards to the decision to declare The OmniTree Group as being a monopoly and also place some administrative controls over it.

1. While the title of this thread notes that The OmniTree
Group is being nationalized, The OmniTree Group has not
been nationalized
. Nationalization is merely a possible
outcome, if The OmniTree Group does not cease to be a monopoly.

2. I do not want to nationalize The OmniTree Group. I would have
for the Hall of Dispensation to have to nationalize any company, for
another government run company is another company that is not a
part of the laissez-faire system that tends to produce the most efficient
economy. But nor does monopoly product the most efficient economy,
and therefore the possibility of nationalization to remove the monopolistic
thread has to be instituted.

3. The decision by the Hall Of Conciliation to declare The OmniTree Group
a monopoly is not historically unprecedented. AT&T (the main/sole telephone co. of
the US), Microsoft (we all know them), and Standard Oil (the world's
biggest oil company, of which Exxon is a descendant) have all been
declared monopolies by governments. Their owners were extremely rich.
Their products were important. No one disagreed that their products had
utterly changed the world we live in, creating our modern society. But,
at the same time, they were monopolies, and therefore anti-competitive.
The OmniTree Group should be proud to be considered to be among
these great companies.

4. The decision to put into place some administrative controls was
not unprecedented. Standard Oil and AT&T were broken into smaller
companies and restrictions were placed on them. In Europe, Microsoft
is required to put a dialog box on their Windows Operating System allowing
users to choose between Internet Explorer and Firefox and other browsers.
Action has been taken and the result is reduced prices. Also, the
owners and of the monopolies have not been driven to the poorhouse as
a result of these actions.

4. The decision to declare The OmniTree Group a monopoly was not
singling out Tarjei Einhornsson. Benacia Entertainment Company, a
company owned solely by me, has also been declared a monopoly. I
am saddened to know that I will be relinquishing much of my casino
business in Elwynn, but it is necessary to create competition.

5. The decision to seize 12 million shares of CWG stock from The OmniTree
Group was the result of public omplaints voiced by an emeritus member of
the Board of Directors of Commonwealth Global, Vilhelm Benkern, that The
OmniTree Group, among other shareholders, were not actively participating
in the shareholders meeting of Commonwealth Global, and therefore
impeding that company's business, and because The OmniTree Group has
continued to acquire vast numbers of CWG shares at very high prices despite
its CEO having made negative statements towards the company, which given
that CWG is a potential competitor in a variety of industries towards the OmniTree
Group can be considered monopolistic/anti-competitive. I stand to gain
nothing personally from the decision to seize these shares as I hold no seat on
the Board of Directors of CWG, hold zero shares of CWG stock, and am not
an employee of CWG. It is my hope that the shares will be used partially
as an investment for the Elwynnese government to fund education and
poverty relief efforts abroad.

6. Finally, the decision to declare two companies monopolies was a part of
a general conceptual idea to ensure that the Elwynnese company was
benefiting the common good. I informed His Excellency at the point of
my appointment to the Hall of Dispensation as Chancellor of the
Exchequer and while I did not inform His Excellency of exactly what I
was doing him, I did inform him that a) it would fit into that general
theme and b) it would likely be controversial. So what I did was in
this sense no surprise and, moreover, was not a random decision that
did not fit into some larger point of view.

Emir of Raspur

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Emir of Raspur »

Senator Melang,

Considering your role in the instigation of the CWG you will forgive Senators for questioning whether the appropriation of 12,000,000 shares of the stock held by The OmniTree Group in CWG by your Hall is not only disproportionate to the issue you claim to be remedying but also an object of legitimate concern and interest to the Senate.

Malliki
Posts: 1803
Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:43 am

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Malliki »

Again, show me the legal basis for these actions, Mr. Councillor. I suggest there is none.
Malliki Tosha
Acting Xonuti of the Free State of Sanilla
Poluti Poki'i of Sanilla

User avatar
Lord Erion
Posts: 3797
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:12 pm

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Lord Erion »

Mr President, Senators,
Once again, given the nature of these allegations, and notwithstanding the official reviews that were previously announced, I must point out (presumably in vain) that the most appropriate venue for the fairest and most equitable resolution of these matters is the Court of Justice!
His Imperial Highness Erion of Waffel-Paine,
Prince of Natopia, Prince of Arboria, Duke of New Aquitane, and of the Punkrock Isles, Count of Nerklaa, Count of Augustus, Lord am Baat, Baron Mirkdale, Representative in Frenzy for Arboria, Knight of the Order of the Black Hole, Awardee of the Regent's Medal, MNN.

Elijah Ayreon
Posts: 2709
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:26 pm

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Elijah Ayreon »

Senators,

I have no desire to bring the Prince and his councillor to Court when a mere "slap on the wrist" will solve this awful situation! There is no need to make it uglier than it already is.
Elijah Ayreon-Dariolin of Waffle-Paine (no longer with us)

Ric.

Tarjei Einhornsson
Posts: 369
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:13 am

Re: Proposal: Motion to Overturn the Nationalization of Omni

Post by Tarjei Einhornsson »

I wish to bring the following to the Senate:

http://www.bastionunion.org/forum/viewt ... 239#p69239

I therefor bring up the original subject-matter of this proposal to overturn the order made by Herr Melang on the grounds that it is unconstitutional and overstepping the laws of the Treaty between Elwynn and the Nordic Union.

I motion to vote.

Post Reply

Return to “Union Senate Archives”