Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
So we're not even voting for it before we vote against it. We're voting on what we're going to vote for before we vote against.
Note: I'm not saying that we will vote against the final result. I only wanted to keep to formula of Senator Kerry's poor phrasing.
Note: I'm not saying that we will vote against the final result. I only wanted to keep to formula of Senator Kerry's poor phrasing.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Erion
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Ayreon-Orion
Malliki Tosha
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
I vote in favour of the Erion version.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Ayreon-Orion
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Senators,
The contraproposition voting has ended. I find that with 4 votes for the Ayreon-Orion amendment (Rakira, Einhornsson, Ilios and Tosha) against two for the original ("Erion"; Erion, Loki), the Senate shall deliberate on the proposed Decision reading as follows:
I will hear any motions.
The contraproposition voting has ended. I find that with 4 votes for the Ayreon-Orion amendment (Rakira, Einhornsson, Ilios and Tosha) against two for the original ("Erion"; Erion, Loki), the Senate shall deliberate on the proposed Decision reading as follows:
Fourty-two hours of further debate commences now.Decision of the Senate
ON
THE ADMITTANCE OF REI MIL'ARNA TO THE SENATE
The Senate,
welcoming the petition of Rei Mil'arna of Eliria to be admitted to the Senate,
1. decides to admit Rei Mil'arna to the Senate as a Senator of Elwynn until the first day of Filadin 621, and
2. decides to revisit the question of Rei Mil'arna's membership with the hope that it can admit Rei Mil'arna without time limitations to the Senate after 2 Filadin 621.
I will hear any motions.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Senators,
Unless half of the membership of the Senate vote in favour (and three fourths of those voting vote in favour) of this proposed decision, the proposal will fail because it excludes the Senator unless revisited.
The new rules have been adopted lately and therefore changed the circumstances:
Unless half of the membership of the Senate vote in favour (and three fourths of those voting vote in favour) of this proposed decision, the proposal will fail because it excludes the Senator unless revisited.
The new rules have been adopted lately and therefore changed the circumstances:
I will hear any motions on the proposal as it stands (Ayreon-Orion text).6. The Senate may, by a majority vote of all Senators and at least three fourths' majority of those voting, exclude a Senator from the membership in the Senate.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Mr. President, is Milarna a Senator at the moment? Because that new provision seems to only apply to the exclusion of a person that already is a senator.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Senator Tosha,
Ms Milharna is not a senator at the moment. But the rules would apply to her as soon as she becomes a senator.
Ms Milharna is not a senator at the moment. But the rules would apply to her as soon as she becomes a senator.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Senators,
If there are no motions on this matter within the next 48 hours, I will have to remove the proposal from the agenda of the Senate for violating the Rules.
If there are no motions on this matter within the next 48 hours, I will have to remove the proposal from the agenda of the Senate for violating the Rules.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
I move to vote
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Senators,
We cannot vote since the proposal is in violation of the Procedures. Alternatives are for the Senate to decide to revisit the original proposal, to amend the current proposal or to drop it.
I await motions.
We cannot vote since the proposal is in violation of the Procedures. Alternatives are for the Senate to decide to revisit the original proposal, to amend the current proposal or to drop it.
I await motions.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Mr. President,
By original proposal, do you mean this:
By original proposal, do you mean this:
Decision of the Senate
ON
THE ADMITTANCE OF REI MIL'ARNA TO THE SENATE
The Senate,
welcoming the petition of Rei Mil'arna of Elriria to be admitted to the Senate,
decides to admit Rei Mil'arna to the Senate as a Senator of Elwynn.
Jacobus Loki
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Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
I do mean that, Highness.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Mr. President, then I so move.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Senators,
I accept that motion. 48 hours of debate on the new proposal begins now.
I will hear any motions.
I accept that motion. 48 hours of debate on the new proposal begins now.
I will hear any motions.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Mr President, in the absence of any debate so far being forthcoming, I move to vote.
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Senators,
Does Mr Erion have a second for his move to vote?
Does Mr Erion have a second for his move to vote?
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Second. Let's get Mr. Mil'arna among our number...
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Re: Proposal: Rei Mil'arna as Senator
Senators,
Debate ends. The Senate shall now answer the question: Does it adopt the proposed Decision on the admittance of Rei Mil'arna to the Senate?
Debate ends. The Senate shall now answer the question: Does it adopt the proposed Decision on the admittance of Rei Mil'arna to the Senate?
Decision of the Senate
ON
THE ADMITTANCE OF REI MIL'ARNA TO THE SENATE
The Senate,
welcoming the petition of Rei Mil'arna of Elriria to be admitted to the Senate,
decides to admit Rei Mil'arna to the Senate as a Senator of Elwynn.
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