New Terrain Mapping Project

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New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Max II » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:39 pm

Inspired by recently cartographical musings (not to mention Shyriath's very fine work), I've decided to have a have another look at properly mapping the Union's territories (with a view to guiding more detailed development). It's early days, but this small map shows the sort of thing that should be possible:

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The plan is to use Paint to well...paint...the broad brush-strokes of the relief and then to vectorise the result, allowing for more detail to be added.
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Verion » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:16 pm

It is possible, here is the map I made for Calbion some time ago:

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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Shyriath » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:59 am

I shall watch this with interest. :mrgreen:
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Max II » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:34 am

That's a smart map of Calbion, Jack.

This map shows the current state of the project, now expanded to south-western Cibola:

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Ideally, I'd like to co-ordinate this project with neighbouring states, although currently the only neighbouring state is Hamland...
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Raz » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:22 pm

We're pretty close too. On the other hand I'm not a perfectionist in cartography so I will probably not get involved.
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Verion » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:29 pm

Cartography is the backbone of micronationalism. ;)
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Raz » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:36 pm

Micronationalism was declared heresy by Emperor Jezza.
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Verion » Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:45 pm

Emperor Jezza can stick his declarations somewhere inapropriate.
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Raz » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:33 pm

I will not engage in talk like this, especially not in the territory of our esteemed Sanguno-Leichenbergish neighbors.
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Gordoth » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:21 pm

These look absolutely fantastic! I'd be more than happy to help with any project in this regard. I've been trying to update all our maps following the expansion so this is a pretty decent time for me. Just let me know what needs done.

*edit - Just to get some practice I've done this. Is this the sort of thing you are after?
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by DES Senya » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:51 am

This is the kind of thing I'd be very interested in. If you wouldn't mind making one for Senya and the area around Lake Lamantia (+Tiana) that'd be grand :D
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Max II » Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:08 am

Rasmus wrote:We're pretty close too. On the other hand I'm not a perfectionist in cartography so I will probably not get involved.
Fair enough! My approach is admittedly rather involved, but my hope is that a large scale terrain map will allow for some really detailed development.
Gordoth wrote:These look absolutely fantastic! I'd be more than happy to help with any project in this regard. I've been trying to update all our maps following the expansion so this is a pretty decent time for me. Just let me know what needs done.

*edit - Just to get some practice I've done this. Is this the sort of thing you are after?
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Execellent...and yes, that's the sort of thing!

If you enlarge the map I posted, you'll see a "scale" of different colours in the middle of the ocean. What I've tried to do is take the existing MCS terrain map and break down the gradations to allow for more detail; so, the two lowest colours translate to the dark green on the MCS map, the next two to the lighter green, the next three to the tan and the highest three to the orange areas. It's not an exact match of course, but it's useful to have a standard.
DES Senya wrote:This is the kind of thing I'd be very interested in. If you wouldn't mind making one for Senya and the area around Lake Lamantia (+Tiana) that'd be grand :D
To be honest, I wasn't envisaging extending this project beyond southern Cibola at this stage...although that is a possibility for the future. It was also my intention that interested parties co-ordinate their own national mapping projects: it wasn't offering to make all the maps myself! My advice is to just give it a go, as you will likely have a much better idea of the terrain of your country than I do. Time permitting, I'm happy to offer some advice and feedback as I find it helps to have a second opinion of things. :)
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by DES Senya » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:19 pm

Max II wrote: To be honest, I wasn't envisaging extending this project beyond southern Cibola at this stage...although that is a possibility for the future. It was also my intention that interested parties co-ordinate their own national mapping projects: it wasn't offering to make all the maps myself! My advice is to just give it a go, as you will likely have a much better idea of the terrain of your country than I do. Time permitting, I'm happy to offer some advice and feedback as I find it helps to have a second opinion of things. :)
Aah, my mistake, I apologise. What software do you use?
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Verion » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:06 am

How is this going?
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Max II » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:30 pm

DES Senya wrote: Aah, my mistake, I apologise. What software do you use?
No apologies needed!

For these maps, I used MS Paint...but the map below was produced with Inkscape.
Jack wrote:How is this going?
Slowly...

The main challenge is sheer scale; even a few pixels on the MCS map represents hundreds of square kilometres, so adding any real detail is a very time-consuming process.

This rough map (still a work in progress) shows the heartlands of Leichenberg at a scale of 1 pixel to 1 kilometre:

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If it looks rather "blocky", it's because the boundaries and contour lines have been plotted from the small, MCS-derived terrain map. As time allows, I hope to detail it properly...but that's going to be a massive job.
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Gordoth » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:12 pm

Thanks for the feedback. Aye. I think I can translate the maps. I actually got a lot done fairly quickly! I did the whole central Commonwealth.

One problem was the rough scale of mountains. Are you going for sticking to the heights of the MCS maps? I think your mountains look higher. If I sort out your approach I should be able to help if you just let me know what to fill in.

The next point was that I looked up real maps and it turned out I had a silly amount of flat land. I'm not sure how to solve this without starting again though.
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Saohuang » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:37 am

An extension of the terrain into the vicinity of Tieya:

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See also the very basic map of Tieya built on this.

I, er, I fiddled a little with the bits just on either side of the borders with Steeria and Leichenberg. I avoided touching anything that looked important, Rossheim, but let me know if something needs changing back.
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Max II » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:23 pm

That looks okay to me. It would only be a problem if you changed terrain that defines the various borders...otherwise I can work around it.
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Re: New Terrain Mapping Project

Post by Saohuang » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:10 am

Please find enclosed a new version of the map, extending the explored territory of the map to Nordmark:

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