VOTE 1: Institutions of the State

[Soreaa Isurui]

Comments encouraged by votes.

1.1 LEGISLATURE

1.1.1 Shall the legislature be direct democratic, elected or appointed?

[ ] Direct democratic (each citizen has one vote)
[ ] Elected (by the citizens)
[ ] Appointed (please specify by whom)

1.1.2 What shall the legislature's name be?

[ ] Senate
[ ] Council of Eliria
[ ] Congress
[ ] None of above. Please specify

1.2 EXECUTIVE
(Assumption: head of state and govovernment is the same person)

1.2.1 What is the nature of appointment of the head of government (executive).

[ ] Elected (specify by whom)
[ ] Appointed (specify by whom)
[ ] Hereditary (specify how)

1.2.2 Shall there be a limit on the time of the term the head of government?

[ ] Yes (please specify amount of time)
[ ] No

1.2.3 What shall the title of the head of government be?

[ ] Prince/Princess
[ ] Duke/Duchess
[ ] Secretary
[ ] Other, please specify

1.2.4 Shall the head of government have powers of legislative nature?

(more than one option possible)

[ ] Yes, for consent to all laws passed by legislature.
[ ] Yes, for consent to constitutional amendments
[ ] Yes, if temporarily delegated by the legislature
[ ] Yes, in cases of emergency
[ ] Yes, co-equal to the legislature ("bicameralism")
[ ] Yes, for all matters, able to overrule the "other legislature".
[ ] No.

1.3 JUDICATURE

1.3.1 Who shall hold powers of judicature?

[ ] Legislature (as indicated by 1.1)
[ ] Executuve (as indicated by 1.2)
[ ] An impartial court

[Luix Rakira]

1.1 LEGISLATURE

1.1.1 Shall the legislature be direct democratic, elected or appointed?

[x] Direct democratic (each citizen has one vote)
[ ] Elected (by the citizens)
[ ] Appointed (please specify by whom)

1.1.2 What shall the legislature's name be?

[ ] Senate
[ ] Council of Eliria
[x] Congress
[ ] None of above. Please specify

1.2 EXECUTIVE
(Assumption: head of state and government is the same person)

1.2.1 What is the nature of appointment of the head of government (executive).

[x] Elected (by legislature)
[ ] Appointed (specify by whom)
[ ] Hereditary (specify how)

1.2.2 Shall there be a limit on the time of the term the head of government?

[ ] Yes (please specify amount of time)
[x] No

1.2.3 What shall the title of the head of government be?

[x] Prince/Princess
[ ] Duke/Duchess
[ ] Secretary
[ ] Other, please specify

1.2.4 Shall the head of government have powers of legislative nature?

(more than one option possible)

[x] Yes, for consent to all laws passed by legislature.
[x] Yes, for consent to constitutional amendments
[x] Yes, if temporarily delegated by the legislature
[x] Yes, in cases of emergency
[ ] Yes, co-equal to the legislature ("bicameralism")
[ ] Yes, for all matters, able to overrule the "other legislature".
[ ] No.

1.3 JUDICATURE

1.3.1 Who shall hold powers of judicature?

[x] Legislature (as indicated by 1.1)
[ ] Executive (as indicated by 1.2)
[ ] An impartial court

[Scott Alexander]

LEGISLATURE:
Direct democratic
(but I would enjoy a simulated lower house, the way the Union was talking about)

NAME:
Council of Eliria
(the name for the old legislature in last incarnation of Unified Elwynn)

NATURE OF EXECUTIVE
Appointed/Hereditary
(I support adoptive monarchy, with the last executive choosing the new one, maybe with confirmation by the legislature. This makes the executive and legislature two different sources of political opinion, rather than just two different conduits of majority rule. It also prevents the sorts of unfortunate fights about executives that marked the last days of the Elwynnese Union)

LIMIT OF TERMS
No strong feelings

TITLE
Prince
(I would support a system in which all Imperial State heads have both an internal name and a collective name, with the collective name being "Dukes" and the internal name being whatever the subdivision wants. So, for example, the Prince of Elwynn would gain the style of a "Duke of Shireroth", which might have some imperial level perks.)

POWERS EQUAL TO LEGISLATURE
Maybe approve amendments, maybe they can delegate powers, certainly shouldn't have powers EQUAL to the legislature.

JUDICATURE
No strong opinion.

[Octavius]

Comments encouraged by votes.

1.1 LEGISLATURE

1.1.1 Shall the legislature be direct democratic, elected or appointed?

[X] Direct democratic (each citizen has one vote)
[ ] Elected (by the citizens)
[X] Appointed (please specify by whom) -- the Prince, I guess

1.1.2 What shall the legislature's name be?

[X] Senate
[X] Council of Eliria
[ ] Congress
[ ] None of above. Please specify

1.2 EXECUTIVE
(Assumption: head of state and govovernment is the same person)

1.2.1 What is the nature of appointment of the head of government (executive).

[ ] Elected (specify by whom)
[X] Appointed (specify by whom) -- like the Roman Emperors, adoption of the heir, approved by the legislature
[ ] Hereditary (specify how)

1.2.2 Shall there be a limit on the time of the term the head of government?

[ ] Yes (please specify amount of time)
[X] No

1.2.3 What shall the title of the head of government be?

[X] Prince/Princess
[ ] Duke/Duchess
[ ] Secretary
[ ] Other, please specify

1.2.4 Shall the head of government have powers of legislative nature?

(more than one option possible)

[ ] Yes, for consent to all laws passed by legislature.
[X] Yes, for consent to constitutional amendments
[X] Yes, if temporarily delegated by the legislature
[X] Yes, in cases of emergency
[ ] Yes, co-equal to the legislature ("bicameralism")
[ ] Yes, for all matters, able to overrule the "other legislature".
[ ] No.

1.3 JUDICATURE

1.3.1 Who shall hold powers of judicature?

[ ] Legislature (as indicated by 1.1)
[X] Executive (as indicated by 1.2)
[ ] An impartial court[/quote]

I may have selected multiples for things not selected multiples.

[Jacobus Loki]

1.1 LEGISLATURE

1.1.1 Shall the legislature be direct democratic, elected or appointed?

[X] Direct democratic (each citizen has one vote)
[ ] Elected (by the citizens)
[ ] Appointed (please specify by whom)

1.1.2 What shall the legislature's name be?

[ ] Senate
[X] Council of Eliria
[ ] Congress
[ ] None of above. Please specify

1.2 EXECUTIVE
(Assumption: head of state and government is the same person)

1.2.1 What is the nature of appointment of the head of government (executive).

[ ] Elected (specify by whom)
[X] Appointed (specify by whom)
[X] Hereditary (specify how)

Why not consider a "Duke" / Prime Minister type of arrangement? Lots of activity selecting the PM, with a Head of State to add continuity.

1.2.2 Shall there be a limit on the time of the term the head of government?

[X] Yes (please specify amount of time)
[X] No
Appointed/Hereditary for the Head of State, all sorts of chaos for the PM (votes of confidence & the like)

See above.

1.2.3 What shall the title of the head of government be?

[ ] Prince/Princess
[X] Duke/Duchess
[ ] Secretary
[ ] Other, please specify

I'd prefer a Duke,to be conformed to Shirithian custom, but the "Duke" could be styled "Prince" or perhaps some new creative title.

1.2.4 Shall the head of government have powers of legislative nature?

(more than one option possible)

[X] Yes, for consent to all laws passed by legislature.
[X] Yes, for consent to constitutional amendments
[X] Yes, if temporarily delegated by the legislature
[X] Yes, in cases of emergency
[ ] Yes, co-equal to the legislature ("bicameralism")
[ ] Yes, for all matters, able to overrule the "other legislature".
[ ] No.

1.3 JUDICATURE

1.3.1 Who shall hold powers of judicature?

[ ] Legislature (as indicated by 1.1)
[X] Executive (as indicated by 1.2)
A good job for an otherwise less active "Duke".
[ ] An impartial court
Redundant. Plus MN courts tend to get out of control

[Monty]

1.1 LEGISLATURE

1.1.1 Shall the legislature be direct democratic, elected or appointed?

[X] Direct democratic (each citizen has one vote)
[ ] Elected (by the citizens)
[ ] Appointed (please specify by whom)

1.1.2 What shall the legislature's name be?

[X] Senate
[ ] Council of Eliria
[ ] Congress
[ ] None of above. Please specify

1.2 EXECUTIVE
(Assumption: head of state and government is the same person)

1.2.1 What is the nature of appointment of the head of government (executive).

[X] Elected (specify by whom)
[] Appointed (specify by whom)
[] Hereditary (specify how)

1.2.2 Shall there be a limit on the time of the term the head of government?

[] Yes (please specify amount of time)
[X] No



1.2.3 What shall the title of the head of government be?

[X] Prince/Princess
[] Duke/Duchess
[ ] Secretary
[ ] Other, please specify

1.2.4 Shall the head of government have powers of legislative nature?

(more than one option possible)

[X] Yes, for consent to all laws passed by legislature.
[X] Yes, for consent to constitutional amendments
[X] Yes, if temporarily delegated by the legislature
[X] Yes, in cases of emergency
[ ] Yes, co-equal to the legislature ("bicameralism")
[ ] Yes, for all matters, able to overrule the "other legislature".
[ ] No.

1.3 JUDICATURE

1.3.1 Who shall hold powers of judicature?

[X] Legislature (as indicated by 1.1)
[X] Executive (as indicated by 1.2)
[X] An impartial court

Little bit confused as to the positive feedback I received in the other thread in which I talked about a two-tiered system for Executive, Legislature and Judicial Powers not being brought over here. Taking the assumption that people didn't quite understand what I was suggesting I will set it out below a little more clearly.

Head of State and Government:
Prince

Legislature:
1. Council of Eliria
The Council of Eliria will be made up of the 4 leaders of the Provinces. I originally suggested that the provinces be called Counties with the sub-divisions below that being called Marches controlled by Knights or something similar. The 4 leaders of the Provinces would be entitled to sit and vote in the lower legislature, the Senate, unless it is an area where the Council of Eliria has joint competency with the Senate. The Council of Eliria would have competency over changes to internal and external borders, the power to remove the Prince and approving amendments to the Constitution with the other branches.
2. The Senate
The Senate would be made up of everyone with competency in every area allowed under the High Law of Elwynn and the Imperial Charter, except changing internal or external borders or remove the Prince. To remove the Prince the Senate would need to petition the Council of Eliria with an indictment based in law.

The Judiciary
The Council of Eliria would also act as the Court of the land. It is hard to be judged by peers in micronations but it is my view that we have a unique opportunity to be exceptional. All crimes and disputes are to be adjudicated in the Council unless it involves a leader of a province. In the event that a leader of a province is subject to a crime or dispute he will recuse himself unless it is a high crime. If a high crime, the Prince would be required to lay before the Senate an indictment and the Senate would then try the leader of the province.

[Soreaa Isurui]

I apologize for not bringing Balarak Alaion's proposal here, it was clearly an oversight.

[Soreaa Isurui]

Five persons voted:

unanimity
near unanimity
simple majority

1.1 LEGISLATURE

1.1.1 Shall the legislature be direct democratic, elected or appointed?

[5] Direct democratic (each citizen has one vote)
[ ] Elected (by the citizens)
[1] Appointed (please specify by whom)

1.1.2 What shall the legislature's name be?

[2] Senate
[3] Council of Eliria
[1] Congress
[ ] None of above. Please specify

1.2 EXECUTIVE
(Assumption: head of state and govovernment is the same person)

1.2.1 What is the nature of appointment of the head of government (executive).

[2] Elected (specify by whom)
[2] Appointed (specify by whom)
[2] Hereditary (specify how)

1.2.2 Shall there be a limit on the time of the term the head of government?

[1] Yes (please specify amount of time)
[4] No

1.2.3 What shall the title of the head of government be?

[4] Prince/Princess
[1] Duke/Duchess
[ ] Secretary
[ ] Other, please specify

1.2.4 Shall the head of government have powers of legislative nature?

(more than one option possible)

[3] Yes, for consent to all laws passed by legislature.
[5] Yes, for consent to constitutional amendments
[5] Yes, if temporarily delegated by the legislature
[4] Yes, in cases of emergency
[ ] Yes, co-equal to the legislature ("bicameralism")
[ ] Yes, for all matters, able to overrule the "other legislature".
[ ] No.

1.3 JUDICATURE

1.3.1 Who shall hold powers of judicature?

[2] Legislature (as indicated by 1.1)
[3] Executive (as indicated by 1.2)
[1] An impartial court


Other suggestions:

"Federal" Council of Eliria + Senate (bicameralism) with Council of Eliria holding power of "check" on Prince and legislature.

Head of State and Head of Government separated.

Simulated lower house of legislature (Congressionalism)