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Buying land

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 3:38 pm
by Thadeus Laing
I am interested initially in purchasing land that can be represented by at least 1 pixel
on the MCS map. The land must come with a deed legally enforced in the jurisdiction.
Smaller parcels are preferred. The price range sought is 100 Erb per pixel. I am interested
primarily in land in nations that do not have much risk of border changes.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:16 pm
by Vilhelm Benkern
Quite a low price, I think. If you become a citizen of many micronations, they will give you power over land - Shireroth's feudal-federal system, Aryasht's provincial governors, etc.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:22 pm
by Sindre Nemnai
The Government of Hurmu is able to let you lease land, with full jurisdiction and administration over the land, in northern part of Lontinien with following conditions: minimum leasing 40 pixels, maximums 70 pixels. Price is at 400 florins per pixel and Gregorian year.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:28 pm
by Sisera B.E.
So after throwing away Wahlstadt now you are throwing away Hurmu?

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 5:04 pm
by Sindre Nemnai
Just keeping taxes low for the Hurmudans so they don't complain about despotism and that.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 5:59 pm
by Thadeus Laing
Sindre, I would be interested in purchasing a lease one pixel for 200 florins, oceanfront preferred, leasehold ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leasehold ) for 1 Gregorian year, with the right to sell the lease to a third party, since this company will be purchasing land with the intent to re-sell it at a later time. I would purchase more except for the risk, since this is a new endeavor. As for taxes or anything political, this company is not interested in that (or else it would be going the route Vilhelm suggests). This does not exclude, however, the possibility that we might sublease a property for a variety of purposes until it is sold, to generate profit.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 6:47 pm
by Sindre Nemnai
Mr Melang

One pixel is too small. I can agree to 10 pixels at the smallest. Since such lease would require legislative necessities, it is better for the State if the lease is considerate so persons can avoid unnecessarily going onto it. The price of 400 florins per pixel was calculated on a lease of larger terms. Unfortunately, due to administrative and legal burdens, and gaining compension for the lease, the lowest price I can offer at the 10 pixel area is 530 florins per pixel.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 5:27 am
by Vai Ansin
Remember that one pixel is 144 sq km...

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:06 am
by M. Lucius Praetor
Mr. Melang, I could sell you a pixel in Tyrenia for 600. it is farmland outside the city walls.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:59 pm
by Thadeus Laing
A single pixel is indeed 144 sq km. It is quite a lot of land and one could even make
a mini-map of just that one pixel's area that contains quite a lot of things.

M. Lucius, what are the coordinates of this pixel, and what, if any, are the land usage requirements?
For instance, if I did not want to use the land for agriculture, would that be allowed?

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:39 am
by M. Lucius Praetor
I don't know how to see the coordinates, but here is a pic, it is the red pixel to which the arrow points:

Image

You can use it for everything you like, but if you want to build huge skyscrapers it would cost you an extra 100.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:01 pm
by Thadeus Laing
I see that the pixel is on a border. Therefore, half of it belongs to your nation, and half of it to the neighboring nation, unless that neighboring nation and your nation have defined and agreed on a border that is different. It is not possible to tell the exact border unfortunately because of the black color. Not to say that it is not good land, but to save time we are only interested in pixels that are not located on borders, at least at this time. Thank you for your offer, and if there are any other pixels you wish to sell, please let us know.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:00 am
by M. Lucius Praetor
it is not, it was a white pixel.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:21 am
by Thadeus Laing
Please provide us a map showing that the pixel is not directly on a border, as we
are likely to consider a purchase if it is not; however, we request that the fee to
build skyscrapers be removed. This is because the pixel in question is not oceanfront,
therefore no fee is needed to sufficiently cover the cost of hurricane insurance
for us and our tenants. Thank you.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:58 am
by M. Lucius Praetor
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We will lower the fee to 50 florins.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:24 pm
by Thadeus Laing
What are the coordinates of the general area of the pixel? These you
can find on the MCS map itself, along the edges of the political version
of the map.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:11 am
by M. Lucius Praetor
N 17 E 21

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:09 pm
by Thadeus Laing
It checks out. I intend to hopefully purchase it for the 600 plus 50 erb fee, in exchange
for the deed with no restrictions on land use, a deed which will be titled to the company.
Please present the deed so that it can be signed, and then, assuming my lawyers check
it out and find it fine and tell me I can sign it and I do, I will send you the payment.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:42 am
by Thadeus Laing
Several comments by your prominent citizens have our company disappointed.

Royston Merrick wrote:Inquisition at the Greyhound Inn.


Hugo wrote:Hmm, 50 florins...

OOC: how much is that in, say, Shireroth Erbs?

I oppose this deal, and will sponsor a small militia force so I can keep an eye on that.


My lawyers advise me that accordingly I should sign a deed under no circumstances at this time.

It is still a good piece of land for sale; maybe there are others who are less controversial than
I whom you can make a reasonable deal with.*





*But there's probably not, and in that case I pity your plight.

Re: Buying land

PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:44 am
by M. Lucius Praetor
Well, that's a shame. I assure you that we will discuss this and let you know what we decided.