Space Exploration Conference
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Incidentally, I was asked if I would be willing to Gloria-Mundify Momiji and Tarsica. I've started doodling the one for Momiji; if anyone has any data about what its characteristics are, especially how big it is and what its axial tilt is (though any other info would be grand), kindly let me know.
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There is a scale on the map of Momiji.
Axial tilt has never been defined. Put your stamp on history and define it!
Axial tilt has never been defined. Put your stamp on history and define it!
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42 degrees. Someone has to put a Hitchhiker's Guide reference in space eventually.
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Ah. Scale. Right. *embarrassedcough*
42 degrees is a pretty radical tilt, but completely aside from the Hitchhiker's Guide reference (which is indeed worthy in its own right), that may make it all the more interesting a place to visit. Wild seasonal shifts, maybe crazy storms... each ice cap could very well disappear on a seasonal basis. Hmmmmmm.
And orbital distance? Momiji is supposed to be colder than Micras, right?
42 degrees is a pretty radical tilt, but completely aside from the Hitchhiker's Guide reference (which is indeed worthy in its own right), that may make it all the more interesting a place to visit. Wild seasonal shifts, maybe crazy storms... each ice cap could very well disappear on a seasonal basis. Hmmmmmm.
And orbital distance? Momiji is supposed to be colder than Micras, right?
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Though that might be attributed to a notably greater amount of cloud cover. The water's ability to retain excessive heat would be able to keep a crisp environment under the right circumstances. A tilt of 42 degrees, for example, would keep one hemisphere cool while slowly heating the various atmospheric layer of the other. The equator would be eternally engaged in a war of violent weather systems. Food for thought.
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Momiji was supposed to have elongated autumnal seasons, with wet, rainy summers, but that's never been set in stone. Momiji means "maple" in Japanese and refers to the maple-leaf pattern continent; but it was also an allusion to a climate that could sustain deciduous trees like maples.
Japanese Maples. Get it? Haw haw. Nerdy botanical humor.
Ahem... Anyways...
Japanese Maples. Get it? Haw haw. Nerdy botanical humor.
Ahem... Anyways...
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Chasing down my own records, I have found more spacey things... this time even older, from the Novaya Zemlyan G.K.I.
There was also a heavy-lift cargo rocket and some incomplete plans for a joint Zemlyan/Babkhan space station (Project Zoryavanant) which I recall, but can't find the records.
Incidentally during this foray I also discovered the lost recipes to Kubanskaya and Klukvinnaya vodka, which have been duly added to the product range of the Mesior Distillery...
Incidentally during this foray I also discovered the lost recipes to Kubanskaya and Klukvinnaya vodka, which have been duly added to the product range of the Mesior Distillery...
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Some really exciting plans here! Looking forward to what happens as it goes forward
One thought from me - as some of you noticed, Shireroth had an earlier joint-foray into space exploration with Nelaga, run through the auspices of JASO. Given Shireroth now controls JASO under the terms of the Mango-Garp accord, it would make sense to build on the work JASO has already done in this area, and perhaps even run the project through them, given they are technically Shirithian, but also the closest thing Micras has to an independent scientific/innovation body.
One thought from me - as some of you noticed, Shireroth had an earlier joint-foray into space exploration with Nelaga, run through the auspices of JASO. Given Shireroth now controls JASO under the terms of the Mango-Garp accord, it would make sense to build on the work JASO has already done in this area, and perhaps even run the project through them, given they are technically Shirithian, but also the closest thing Micras has to an independent scientific/innovation body.
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Here is an updated list of organizational contacts for representatives
to this conference.
REPRESENTATIVES, ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTED
DES Senya, Senyan Space Agency
Thadeus Melanje II, Yardistani Space Agency (Under The Auspices of Musica)
Rasmus, The Jingdao Space Agency
The Incarnates, Taskforce for the Presence of the Garden Beyond Micras
Rei Miłarna, Þavalt Shipyards
I see that Andreas has said JASO might be able to contribute--it was not dissolved
with Nelaga but rather acquired by Shireroth. Its Director I have noticed is
Vur'Alm Xei'Bôn. Thus if Mr Xei'Bôn could issue a statement that his organization
wishes to contribute to this conference and its work on various projects, then
I can subsequently add him as a contact. We would be glad to have the
vast knowledge, experience, and history of the renown JASO on board with
this conference.
Now, let us move on to a couple more key points that fall under our
current phase of "international cooperation and joint efforts":
* As how the Earth nations of Russia and the US continue to cooperate in
space as a matter of necessity, even though these two nations have had
major differences of opinion recently on certain issues, for the purpose of
international cooperation and the mutual progress of Micran mankind in space,
the nations represented in this conference should continue their cooperation
on various conference-sanctioned projects despite what diplomatic or military
differences they may have going forward.
* A joint Space Command of all the nations involved in the conference shall be
responsible for ensuring that all projects are conducted in respect of all
international laws and regulations. The headquarters of Joint Space Command
will be in Twilight Island, Yardistan, Shireroth. To simplify sovereignty issues, the
nation- states involved in this conference shall hold joint sovereignty over all lunar
bases, colonies, spacecraft, etc. created by this conference that are not on the
planet of Micras; any disputes, e.g. over borders, natural resource claims, ownership
of equipment etc., between participating nations or between non-participating nations
and participating nations will be handled through arbitration at Joint Space Command
to the extent possible, and then responsibility for dispute resolution may be forwarded
to one or more participating nations as necessary, in order to see the dispute resolved
on their own accord.
I hope the two above points are agreeable for most representatives present here.
If any disagree on these above two points, please state below. If not, then we
will proceed on the "Securing Funding" phase.
to this conference.
REPRESENTATIVES, ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTED
DES Senya, Senyan Space Agency
Thadeus Melanje II, Yardistani Space Agency (Under The Auspices of Musica)
Rasmus, The Jingdao Space Agency
The Incarnates, Taskforce for the Presence of the Garden Beyond Micras
Rei Miłarna, Þavalt Shipyards
I see that Andreas has said JASO might be able to contribute--it was not dissolved
with Nelaga but rather acquired by Shireroth. Its Director I have noticed is
Vur'Alm Xei'Bôn. Thus if Mr Xei'Bôn could issue a statement that his organization
wishes to contribute to this conference and its work on various projects, then
I can subsequently add him as a contact. We would be glad to have the
vast knowledge, experience, and history of the renown JASO on board with
this conference.
Now, let us move on to a couple more key points that fall under our
current phase of "international cooperation and joint efforts":
* As how the Earth nations of Russia and the US continue to cooperate in
space as a matter of necessity, even though these two nations have had
major differences of opinion recently on certain issues, for the purpose of
international cooperation and the mutual progress of Micran mankind in space,
the nations represented in this conference should continue their cooperation
on various conference-sanctioned projects despite what diplomatic or military
differences they may have going forward.
* A joint Space Command of all the nations involved in the conference shall be
responsible for ensuring that all projects are conducted in respect of all
international laws and regulations. The headquarters of Joint Space Command
will be in Twilight Island, Yardistan, Shireroth. To simplify sovereignty issues, the
nation- states involved in this conference shall hold joint sovereignty over all lunar
bases, colonies, spacecraft, etc. created by this conference that are not on the
planet of Micras; any disputes, e.g. over borders, natural resource claims, ownership
of equipment etc., between participating nations or between non-participating nations
and participating nations will be handled through arbitration at Joint Space Command
to the extent possible, and then responsibility for dispute resolution may be forwarded
to one or more participating nations as necessary, in order to see the dispute resolved
on their own accord.
I hope the two above points are agreeable for most representatives present here.
If any disagree on these above two points, please state below. If not, then we
will proceed on the "Securing Funding" phase.
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Absolutely no joint control of overstars colonies. We will not see our Star Empire fall into the hands of foreigners.
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Don't you feel a bit silly when saying 'star empire'?
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I can confirm that JASO is indeed very happy to be involved.
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"Space is the common heritage of all mankind. It is for us to share, not to claim."
Barnaby Hands
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We're not going to hand sovereignty over to this so we're out, we will colonize the stars by ourselves.
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JASO will be participating. Excellent. Here is the updated list
of contacts (alphabetized):
REPRESENTATIVES, ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTED
Andreas the Wise, JASO
DES Senya, Senyan Space Agency
Rasmus, The Jingdao Space Agency
Rei Miłarna, Þavalt Shipyards
Thadeus Melanje II, Yardistani Space Agency (Under The Auspices of Musica)
The Incarnates, Taskforce for the Presence of the Garden Beyond Micras
Representatives from two participating organizations have stated
disagreement over the joint-sovereignty proposal. The question of
who has sovereignty over the spacecraft, bases, and colonies is
a question that does have to be answered at some point.
It this seems to have struck a nerve with Jingdao and Safiria.
The proposed join-sovereignty matter does not prevent participating
nations from being actively involved. The sovereignty would not
be under this organization or any one nation, but rather under all the
nations collectively.
However, the technical expertise and experience offered by Jingdao is
not exactly easy to refuse. While perhaps alternatives could
be developed, they have developed rockets and have certain
capabilities that would be useful. Therefore, I propose we make a
"special exception" for Jingdao.
Also, to be fair Safiria, they should have this very same "special
exception" too.
These two nations will be given a special exception in exchange for
their participation. The "special exception" is as follows:
* The state of Holy Empire of Jingdao at Sea, in exchange for its
participation in the Space Exploration Conference and assistance
on fulfilling project objectives, will have acknowledged that any
physical module of any space station, space craft, base, or colony
of which it was the primary nation of construction will be fully, 100%,
under the sovereignty of Holy Empire of Jingdao at Sea, and any
space station, space craft, base, or colony that is under the command
of Holy Empire of Jingdao at Sea; the nation of Safiria is also granted
this same "special exception."
I encourage The Emperor of Jingdao to reconsider his decision to
leave the conference so that we all can explore the stars together.
of contacts (alphabetized):
REPRESENTATIVES, ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTED
Andreas the Wise, JASO
DES Senya, Senyan Space Agency
Rasmus, The Jingdao Space Agency
Rei Miłarna, Þavalt Shipyards
Thadeus Melanje II, Yardistani Space Agency (Under The Auspices of Musica)
The Incarnates, Taskforce for the Presence of the Garden Beyond Micras
Representatives from two participating organizations have stated
disagreement over the joint-sovereignty proposal. The question of
who has sovereignty over the spacecraft, bases, and colonies is
a question that does have to be answered at some point.
It this seems to have struck a nerve with Jingdao and Safiria.
The proposed join-sovereignty matter does not prevent participating
nations from being actively involved. The sovereignty would not
be under this organization or any one nation, but rather under all the
nations collectively.
However, the technical expertise and experience offered by Jingdao is
not exactly easy to refuse. While perhaps alternatives could
be developed, they have developed rockets and have certain
capabilities that would be useful. Therefore, I propose we make a
"special exception" for Jingdao.
Also, to be fair Safiria, they should have this very same "special
exception" too.
These two nations will be given a special exception in exchange for
their participation. The "special exception" is as follows:
* The state of Holy Empire of Jingdao at Sea, in exchange for its
participation in the Space Exploration Conference and assistance
on fulfilling project objectives, will have acknowledged that any
physical module of any space station, space craft, base, or colony
of which it was the primary nation of construction will be fully, 100%,
under the sovereignty of Holy Empire of Jingdao at Sea, and any
space station, space craft, base, or colony that is under the command
of Holy Empire of Jingdao at Sea; the nation of Safiria is also granted
this same "special exception."
I encourage The Emperor of Jingdao to reconsider his decision to
leave the conference so that we all can explore the stars together.
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What about the blueskins?DES Senya wrote:"Space is the common heritage of all mankind. It is for us to share, not to claim."
Deimos Jasonides| Деймоос Ясооннаи | Deimoos Jasoonnai
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Former Prime Minister of the State of Talenore
Former Sovereign Prince of Elwynn
Just another Ric
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We need to define mankind as sentient-kind
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Elwynn objects.
Deimos Jasonides| Деймоос Ясооннаи | Deimoos Jasoonnai
Grand Officer of the Holy Order of the Strait of Barbary
Former Prime Minister of the State of Talenore
Former Sovereign Prince of Elwynn
Just another Ric
Grand Officer of the Holy Order of the Strait of Barbary
Former Prime Minister of the State of Talenore
Former Sovereign Prince of Elwynn
Just another Ric
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I would like to know why. Please respond as a human-being and not a politician, I know what you laws state but not why.
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