Liber B.Âlaion[D] 1589-1599
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
Doesn't matter. It's ours now (and for the last two years).
Elijah Ayreon-Dariolin of Waffle-Paine (no longer with us)
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- Scott Alexander
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
Remind me how you got a claim to the north pole?
Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
I thinkits through Normark or Leng. Either that or they did the typical Elirian thing of waking up one morning and deciding to claim something (accompanied with flowery language)
Lord Montague
Balarak Alaiaon, Duke of Elwynn, Unifier of the Severed Duchy, Sequestrer of Disharmony
Also operating as Jean Carmichael, Duke of Evreaux, Speaker of the Imperial Assembly.
Oh and Eli Naveh too, Chief of the Ashkenatzan Naval Staff.
In Battle; Unbeatable. In Victory; Unbearable.
Balarak Alaiaon, Duke of Elwynn, Unifier of the Severed Duchy, Sequestrer of Disharmony
Also operating as Jean Carmichael, Duke of Evreaux, Speaker of the Imperial Assembly.
Oh and Eli Naveh too, Chief of the Ashkenatzan Naval Staff.
In Battle; Unbeatable. In Victory; Unbearable.
- Vilhelm Benkern
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
I think the provisions of the MTO's Convention of the Law of the Seas pertaining to territorial waters have something to do with it.
Vilhelm Benkern DEOMI, Member of the Order of the Dragon, Silver Swan, Red Dragon
Dirigent of Musica, Count of Mar Sara
In Aryasht Prapta Vrteti, former Prince of Aryasht; Zaila Vrteti, Norfolknath
In Elwynn Benjamin Sebasokrator Timothy Quentin Kern, Duke of Raikoth
In Khalypsil Representative of the Wisdom
Dirigent of Musica, Count of Mar Sara
In Aryasht Prapta Vrteti, former Prince of Aryasht; Zaila Vrteti, Norfolknath
In Elwynn Benjamin Sebasokrator Timothy Quentin Kern, Duke of Raikoth
In Khalypsil Representative of the Wisdom
Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
I thought so too but I gave "Free" Elwynn more credit than to attempt to use retroactivity to lay claim to something...how very unfree.
Lord Montague
Balarak Alaiaon, Duke of Elwynn, Unifier of the Severed Duchy, Sequestrer of Disharmony
Also operating as Jean Carmichael, Duke of Evreaux, Speaker of the Imperial Assembly.
Oh and Eli Naveh too, Chief of the Ashkenatzan Naval Staff.
In Battle; Unbeatable. In Victory; Unbearable.
Balarak Alaiaon, Duke of Elwynn, Unifier of the Severed Duchy, Sequestrer of Disharmony
Also operating as Jean Carmichael, Duke of Evreaux, Speaker of the Imperial Assembly.
Oh and Eli Naveh too, Chief of the Ashkenatzan Naval Staff.
In Battle; Unbeatable. In Victory; Unbearable.
- Vilhelm Benkern
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
They trample on the spirit of the document they champion as the first to ratify - it's in their perfidious nature, so have mercy, lord Duke. The atmosphere of the corridors of power in the west is akin to that of a swamp: the air is heavy and murky, hard to see through and hard to breathe, due to the overpowering odour of populism. It was in the natural course of mob rule that they went from a free association of states from around Micras, to being dominated by the majority in west Elwynn. Shireroth sumus. Tempus in parte nostrum est.
Edit: (Sorry, you may want to split the topic, it's getting a bit off topic.) The inspiration I think came from this excellent Natopian draft map of their territorial waters:
http://bastionunion.org/forum/viewtopic ... 234#p63234
Edit: (Sorry, you may want to split the topic, it's getting a bit off topic.) The inspiration I think came from this excellent Natopian draft map of their territorial waters:
http://bastionunion.org/forum/viewtopic ... 234#p63234
Vilhelm Benkern DEOMI, Member of the Order of the Dragon, Silver Swan, Red Dragon
Dirigent of Musica, Count of Mar Sara
In Aryasht Prapta Vrteti, former Prince of Aryasht; Zaila Vrteti, Norfolknath
In Elwynn Benjamin Sebasokrator Timothy Quentin Kern, Duke of Raikoth
In Khalypsil Representative of the Wisdom
Dirigent of Musica, Count of Mar Sara
In Aryasht Prapta Vrteti, former Prince of Aryasht; Zaila Vrteti, Norfolknath
In Elwynn Benjamin Sebasokrator Timothy Quentin Kern, Duke of Raikoth
In Khalypsil Representative of the Wisdom
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
What are you on about?
Look at the map. The very land of Leng touches the north pole. And the MTOCLOS only codified the principle that always had been there in international politics: territorial waters. That's why the MTOCLOS was negotiated and written. Elwynn agreed to its provisions and so territorial waters and reserve waters were defined.
Hardly controversial. It's not like we put Leng there.
Look at the map. The very land of Leng touches the north pole. And the MTOCLOS only codified the principle that always had been there in international politics: territorial waters. That's why the MTOCLOS was negotiated and written. Elwynn agreed to its provisions and so territorial waters and reserve waters were defined.
Hardly controversial. It's not like we put Leng there.
Elijah Ayreon-Dariolin of Waffle-Paine (no longer with us)
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
Sorry...we were only joking...Elijah Ayreon wrote:What are you on about?
Look at the map. The very land of Leng touches the north pole. And the MTOCLOS only codified the principle that always had been there in international politics: territorial waters. That's why the MTOCLOS was negotiated and written. Elwynn agreed to its provisions and so territorial waters and reserve waters were defined.
Hardly controversial. It's not like we put Leng there.
Lord Montague
Balarak Alaiaon, Duke of Elwynn, Unifier of the Severed Duchy, Sequestrer of Disharmony
Also operating as Jean Carmichael, Duke of Evreaux, Speaker of the Imperial Assembly.
Oh and Eli Naveh too, Chief of the Ashkenatzan Naval Staff.
In Battle; Unbeatable. In Victory; Unbearable.
Balarak Alaiaon, Duke of Elwynn, Unifier of the Severed Duchy, Sequestrer of Disharmony
Also operating as Jean Carmichael, Duke of Evreaux, Speaker of the Imperial Assembly.
Oh and Eli Naveh too, Chief of the Ashkenatzan Naval Staff.
In Battle; Unbeatable. In Victory; Unbearable.
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- Vilhelm Benkern
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
Hmm... sleeper western Elwynn Illuminati secretly pushed for recognising Leng and supported it in the MCS in spite of its manifest non-existence?* Wheels within wheels!Elijah Ayreon wrote:Hardly controversial. It's not like we put Leng there.
*Thanks to Octavius for an earlier post elsewhere which included the phrase 'literally a metaphor'.
Vilhelm Benkern DEOMI, Member of the Order of the Dragon, Silver Swan, Red Dragon
Dirigent of Musica, Count of Mar Sara
In Aryasht Prapta Vrteti, former Prince of Aryasht; Zaila Vrteti, Norfolknath
In Elwynn Benjamin Sebasokrator Timothy Quentin Kern, Duke of Raikoth
In Khalypsil Representative of the Wisdom
Dirigent of Musica, Count of Mar Sara
In Aryasht Prapta Vrteti, former Prince of Aryasht; Zaila Vrteti, Norfolknath
In Elwynn Benjamin Sebasokrator Timothy Quentin Kern, Duke of Raikoth
In Khalypsil Representative of the Wisdom
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
Not that bad. Alexandria and Jingdao don't exist either
Elijah Ayreon-Dariolin of Waffle-Paine (no longer with us)
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
Just because I put Leng there doesn't mean I ever said it was habitable.
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
That's why it's under martial law and we made Giles political secretary for the civil administration of Svralus Base
Elijah Ayreon-Dariolin of Waffle-Paine (no longer with us)
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
Oh, I am sure we can pay him then to switch sides. Or is he that attached to Treasonous Elwynn?
- Scott Alexander
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Re: The Ducal Armed Forces
In the old days before the Leng Anomaly was added to the map, the map ended at Hyperborea. Ryan later justified the addition of the Anomaly by saying that the top of the map didn't represent the North Pole, only the northernmost piece of land. With the "discovery" (later proven false) of a more northerly land (Leng), the map was expanded to reach the new northernmost land point.
The map continues to go only as far north as the northernmost piece of (purported) land. Therefore, we have no evidence Leng is actually at the North Pole.
The map continues to go only as far north as the northernmost piece of (purported) land. Therefore, we have no evidence Leng is actually at the North Pole.
Aaak! Stop! You have no idea how long it took us to get rid of him!Oh, I am sure we can pay him then to switch sides. Or is he that attached to Treasonous Elwynn?
Ducal Decree #9
The Duke of Elwynn hereby decrees:
1. The Ducal Armed Forces shall prepare to go to a war footing.
2. HGS Balarak the Behemoth is to set sail immediately and make with all available haste to Northern Absentia.
3. The Grand Air Force of the Duke is to be ready for an immediate scramble.
1. The Ducal Armed Forces shall prepare to go to a war footing.
2. HGS Balarak the Behemoth is to set sail immediately and make with all available haste to Northern Absentia.
3. The Grand Air Force of the Duke is to be ready for an immediate scramble.
Lord Montague
Balarak Alaiaon, Duke of Elwynn, Unifier of the Severed Duchy, Sequestrer of Disharmony
Also operating as Jean Carmichael, Duke of Evreaux, Speaker of the Imperial Assembly.
Oh and Eli Naveh too, Chief of the Ashkenatzan Naval Staff.
In Battle; Unbeatable. In Victory; Unbearable.
Balarak Alaiaon, Duke of Elwynn, Unifier of the Severed Duchy, Sequestrer of Disharmony
Also operating as Jean Carmichael, Duke of Evreaux, Speaker of the Imperial Assembly.
Oh and Eli Naveh too, Chief of the Ashkenatzan Naval Staff.
In Battle; Unbeatable. In Victory; Unbearable.
Ducal Decree #10
The Duke of Elwynn hereby decrees:
1. Simon B.E is expelled from the Duchy of Elwynn.
2. All titles, honours and awards of Simon B.E presented by the Duchy of Elwynn or its subordinate parts are revoked.
3. Simon B.E shall not visit the Duchy of Elwynn on pain of arrest. In practice, the Duchy will seek the removal of his postings rights in the Duchy.
4. A representative of the Shining Garden is to attend the Palace of Dragonsfold immediately to counsel the Duke of Elwynn on the affairs of Raikoth.
1. Simon B.E is expelled from the Duchy of Elwynn.
2. All titles, honours and awards of Simon B.E presented by the Duchy of Elwynn or its subordinate parts are revoked.
3. Simon B.E shall not visit the Duchy of Elwynn on pain of arrest. In practice, the Duchy will seek the removal of his postings rights in the Duchy.
4. A representative of the Shining Garden is to attend the Palace of Dragonsfold immediately to counsel the Duke of Elwynn on the affairs of Raikoth.
Lord Montague
Balarak Alaiaon, Duke of Elwynn, Unifier of the Severed Duchy, Sequestrer of Disharmony
Also operating as Jean Carmichael, Duke of Evreaux, Speaker of the Imperial Assembly.
Oh and Eli Naveh too, Chief of the Ashkenatzan Naval Staff.
In Battle; Unbeatable. In Victory; Unbearable.
Balarak Alaiaon, Duke of Elwynn, Unifier of the Severed Duchy, Sequestrer of Disharmony
Also operating as Jean Carmichael, Duke of Evreaux, Speaker of the Imperial Assembly.
Oh and Eli Naveh too, Chief of the Ashkenatzan Naval Staff.
In Battle; Unbeatable. In Victory; Unbearable.
- Vilhelm Benkern
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Re: Ducal Decree #10
I implore his Grace the honourable Duke to be lenient during the period of Simon's explusion, that this decree might not disrupt the process of his being removed in a manner contrariwise to logic and reason. That is, should he need to pass through the Duchy in order to reach his exile home of Mar Sara, that such a situation not violate this decree and involve the Comital government in embarrassment.
Vilhelm Benkern DEOMI, Member of the Order of the Dragon, Silver Swan, Red Dragon
Dirigent of Musica, Count of Mar Sara
In Aryasht Prapta Vrteti, former Prince of Aryasht; Zaila Vrteti, Norfolknath
In Elwynn Benjamin Sebasokrator Timothy Quentin Kern, Duke of Raikoth
In Khalypsil Representative of the Wisdom
Dirigent of Musica, Count of Mar Sara
In Aryasht Prapta Vrteti, former Prince of Aryasht; Zaila Vrteti, Norfolknath
In Elwynn Benjamin Sebasokrator Timothy Quentin Kern, Duke of Raikoth
In Khalypsil Representative of the Wisdom
- Scott Alexander
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Re: Ducal Decree #10
The representative you summoned is here, but probably not too much less confused than you are.