The population of Goldshire

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The population of Goldshire

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So what's our population? :D

I ask every count to give me a reasonable number of people living in his/her county. By reasonable, explained why and how the number came to be from historical, comparative, etc, reasons.

If possible, a percentage of ethnic groups or languages spoken would be nice too.
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2.7 million humans
0.7 million serfs
7.3 million crows
unknown number of monsters and wicked folk
1.Titus Morvayne, Prefect of Shirekeep, Count of the Skyla Islands
2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
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1635 Census Return for the County of Ran

The County of Ran reports a combined population of 12,607,811 viable sentient subjects, making its nearest equivalent in terms of head count the Elwynnese County of Illumination and Cimmeria (12,108,008) rather than say the Royal City of Eliria with its 22 million inhabitants.

The Lordship of Tyrelwynn
  • Elw 480,001
  • Goldshirean 3,254,342
  • Lunatic 96,000
  • Octalune 14,362
  • Shirerithian (Hominid) 164,060
    Total 4,008,765
The Lordship of Tyrelwynn presently falls under the demesne of Lord Finan Ravenscloak of the Humerumal Banner. Owing to the preferences of his Lordship, Tyrelwynn and the Hundreds that fall within his grasp, are not open to settlement by non-humans.

Excepting the river trade on the Red Elwynn, for which it is in bitter competition with the ESB dominated city of Teldrin, the economy of Tyrelwynn rests predominantly upon subsistence agriculture, forestry, animal husbandry and border reiving.

The Ravenscloak referred to in Lord Finan's surname refers to a family heirloom dating back to the last siege of Shirekeep.

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The City and Soke of Goldshire Hamlet
  • Boreal 2,312
  • Elw 655,000
  • Goldshirean 2,363,000
  • Lunatic 15,211
  • Mercajan (Treesian Revivalist) 959,300
  • Norse 49,709
  • Octalune 22,369
  • Other Aliens (Hominid) 301,942
  • Other Aliens (Non-Hominid Humanoid) 34
  • Other Aliens (Non-Humanoid Hominid) 124
  • Other Aliens (Non-Humanoid) 1
  • Shirerithian (Hominid) 700,538
  • Shirerithian (Revenant) 542
  • Storrish-Elfinshi (Froyalandish) 255
  • Jingdao Heathens 2
  • Llaškari (Euran Babkhi) 4,223
  • Babkhi 12,344
    Total 5,086,906
The City and Soke of Goldshire Hamlet is a more ordered jurisdiction than its two predominantly rural neighbours. Most of its focus is on the eponymous city, which is a significant port as well as the seat of comital and royal government. Agriculture in the Soke is making tentative steps towards industrialisation, although tractors still tend to be of the armoured variety and the prudent farmer brings a repeating rifle and a pavise along with his ploughman's lunch, for when it comes to the seasons in which to plow and sow, the more Luddite inclined amongst his neighbours may yet wish for his head to adorn their barn doors come the harvest festivals.

The city itself, by being comparatively cosmopolitan, is something of a sanctuary for those non-humans of Shireroth who otherwise tend to receive a nasty shock when they cross the border into Ran.

At the moment the Count of Ran's authority is very much restricted to the Soke of Goldshire Hamlet, a consequence of the neglect and anarchy which allowed the two other lordships to form in the County. Even within the Soke the Count faces near constant obstruction from the Worshipful Guild of Aldermen of the Corporation of Goldshire Hamlet. who continually honk on about the preservation of their ancient, and conveniently codified, liberties.
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The Uí Lysaght Holdings (Lordship of Aurum)
  • Goldshirean 3,500,018
  • Octalune 12,122
    Total 3,512,140
There is very little that is good to be said of the Uí Lysaght Banner, who mark their territorial boundaries with crucified prisoners and wear the flayed skins of their enemies as durable all-weather leather capes. Their definition of enemy encompassing just about everyone they are likely to meet. Under the right circumstances they can be hospitable hosts and they take seriously the traditions of the guest-right and will make extreme sacrifices to guarantee the safety of anyone who is under their protection. The manner of gaining that protection remains somewhat unfortunate as it entails the traveller founding a cordial relationship with his protector by sucking his nipple. The gesture is meant to represent the act of an infant sucking on a mother's teat and thus being adopted into the relevant family or sept of the Uí Lysaght.

Anyone living in the area who was not of the Uí Lysaght and who had not taken the prudent precaution of sucking on a proffered nipple, has long since fled or been flayed and crucified. It goes without saying that all but the most necessary journeys to Aurum are strongly advised against.

Only the Octalune were spared, on account of their general utility as slaves and scouts.

If there is any form of economic activity in the Uí Lysaght Holdings beyond cattle-rustling and murder, we have yet to hear of it.

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Suthergold

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Sutherathasian: 5,394,281
Elwynnese: 2,756,484
Ynnraili: 1,469,747
Lunatic: 137,127
Rathasian: 9,610
Sutherlander: 176
Dsunic: 1,037
Other: 40,640
Total: 9,809,102

Cortallia-Rathwood
Sutherathasian: 3,847,385
Rathasian: 3,750,438
Elwynnese: 123,264
Lunatic: 25,367
Ynnraili: 4,536
Sutherlander: 1,389
Dsunic: 963
Other: 21,468
Total: 7,774,810

Sutherland
Sutherlander: 200 (at any given time)
Other: 33
Total: 233

Underwall
Dsunic: 33,001
Rathasian: 27,524
Sutherathasian: 25,828
Sutherlander: 5,128
Other: 7,119
Total: 100,000

High Harvest
Elwynnese: 8,076
Sutherathasian: 2,954
Sutherlander: 1,476
Other: 603
Total: 13,109

Tephal
Sutherathatian: 429,634
Ynnraili: 428,823
Elwynnese: 117,591
Rathasian: 8,264
Sutherlander: 2,948
Dsunic: 2,306
Rathaian: 1,847
Other: 7,639
Total: 997,052

New Harbor
Ynnraili: 5,238
Elwynnese: 4,196
Sutherathasian: 1,635
Dsunic: 223
Other: 584
Total: 11,876

Roaming/Other:
Total: 19,832

Grand Total
18,928,014
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Ynnraile
Total: 19,078,273
Holwinn
Total: 14,469, 452
Dense population centers mainly along the Elwynn River, Shirekeep suburbs, and Demonsfall.

Demonsfall
Draconian: 513,458
Ynnraili: 5,194,300
Other: 737, 374
Total: 6,445,132

Timothea
Part of the outer Shirekeep suburbs, highly diverse population.
Total: 531,007

Cabbagefall
Part of the outer Shirekeep suburbs, highly diverse population.
Total: 704,309

Rural residents and small towns
Total: 6,789,004
Syrelwynn
Total: 4,608,821

Syrelwynn City
Official ducal capital.
Total: 603,197

Avakair
Part of the New Harbor, Sutherland, combined metropolitan census area.
Total: 10,889

Airle
Wine country, resort town.
Total: 196,401

Sintan
Depopulated under mysterious circumstances.
Total: 47

Rural and small town residents
Total: 3,798,337
If there are other figures for these cities, please let me know :)
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So I see me and Verion are the only ones to have cudgelled grouped the native contingent into a single population category, although as far as Crowsilver is concerned it seems the choice is to be either a human, a serf or a crow.

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Perhaps I should have reminded the Counts that only persons possessing natural personhood according to the law of each county ought to be counted. If crows are considered persons under Crowsilver law, then they will be counted.
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Smart birds, crows.

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Goldshire's odd. Crows have legal personhood, but not human slaves.
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Noor bint Daniyal wrote:Goldshire's odd. Crows have legal personhood, but not human slaves.
Well, if he's sticking to the canon I (sort of) set, crows and ravens are like gods over there.
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Noor bint Daniyal wrote:Perhaps I should have reminded the Counts that only persons possessing natural personhood according to the law of each county ought to be counted. If crows are considered persons under Crowsilver law, then they will be counted.
They are considered sacred and they may not be killed by any man or beast. Their legal status is between Free Man and Serf.
1.Titus Morvayne, Prefect of Shirekeep, Count of the Skyla Islands
2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
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Hm, it would then seem we have the following population classes in Goldshire:

The nobility (full rights + privileges)
The free men and women
Beings under protection (full freedom of movement, few political rights, e.g. crows in Crowsilver, foreigners etc)
The serfs (bound to certain lands and lords, but with some rights over their private affairs)
The slaves and chatteled animals (life that is owned by others)
Wild beasts (slaves without legal owner, wildlife)
Other life (bacteria, fungi, algae, plants, etc)
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I'm going to keep the population of Amity as was recorded by Greg:

Amity, Mirioth and So-Sara: 37,705,578

The Royal Government will make some suggestions as to the population of Lunaris, Elsenar and Yardistan - that the Counts can then revise and confirm.

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Thorgils Tarjeisson wrote:The Royal Government will make some suggestions as to the population of Lunaris, Elsenar and Yardistan - that the Counts can then revise and confirm.
Thank you very much! :-D
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