The population of Goldshire
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The population of Goldshire
So what's our population?
I ask every count to give me a reasonable number of people living in his/her county. By reasonable, explained why and how the number came to be from historical, comparative, etc, reasons.
If possible, a percentage of ethnic groups or languages spoken would be nice too.
I ask every count to give me a reasonable number of people living in his/her county. By reasonable, explained why and how the number came to be from historical, comparative, etc, reasons.
If possible, a percentage of ethnic groups or languages spoken would be nice too.
NOOR AS-SALAAM BINT DANIYAL UMRA SULEIMAN AYREON-KALIRION IBN AL-MAJEED AL-OSMAN BIN SATHRATI AF ETTLINGUM FREYU UMM ZAHIR AL-DIN OF WAFFEL-PAINE
Queen of Goldshire, the Elian Lands, Leng, Elwynn, Amokolia and Uppland
Re: The population of Goldshire
2.7 million humans
0.7 million serfs
7.3 million crows
unknown number of monsters and wicked folk
0.7 million serfs
7.3 million crows
unknown number of monsters and wicked folk
1.Titus Morvayne, Prefect of Shirekeep, Count of the Skyla Islands
2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
4. Jeremy Harwinsson Archer, super sleuth
2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
4. Jeremy Harwinsson Archer, super sleuth
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Re: The population of Goldshire
1635 Census Return for the County of Ran
The County of Ran reports a combined population of 12,607,811 viable sentient subjects, making its nearest equivalent in terms of head count the Elwynnese County of Illumination and Cimmeria (12,108,008) rather than say the Royal City of Eliria with its 22 million inhabitants.
The Lordship of Tyrelwynn
Excepting the river trade on the Red Elwynn, for which it is in bitter competition with the ESB dominated city of Teldrin, the economy of Tyrelwynn rests predominantly upon subsistence agriculture, forestry, animal husbandry and border reiving.
The Ravenscloak referred to in Lord Finan's surname refers to a family heirloom dating back to the last siege of Shirekeep.
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The City and Soke of Goldshire Hamlet
The city itself, by being comparatively cosmopolitan, is something of a sanctuary for those non-humans of Shireroth who otherwise tend to receive a nasty shock when they cross the border into Ran.
At the moment the Count of Ran's authority is very much restricted to the Soke of Goldshire Hamlet, a consequence of the neglect and anarchy which allowed the two other lordships to form in the County. Even within the Soke the Count faces near constant obstruction from the Worshipful Guild of Aldermen of the Corporation of Goldshire Hamlet. who continually honk on about the preservation of their ancient, and conveniently codified, liberties.
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The Uí Lysaght Holdings (Lordship of Aurum)
Anyone living in the area who was not of the Uí Lysaght and who had not taken the prudent precaution of sucking on a proffered nipple, has long since fled or been flayed and crucified. It goes without saying that all but the most necessary journeys to Aurum are strongly advised against.
Only the Octalune were spared, on account of their general utility as slaves and scouts.
If there is any form of economic activity in the Uí Lysaght Holdings beyond cattle-rustling and murder, we have yet to hear of it.
The County of Ran reports a combined population of 12,607,811 viable sentient subjects, making its nearest equivalent in terms of head count the Elwynnese County of Illumination and Cimmeria (12,108,008) rather than say the Royal City of Eliria with its 22 million inhabitants.
The Lordship of Tyrelwynn
- Elw 480,001
- Goldshirean 3,254,342
- Lunatic 96,000
- Octalune 14,362
- Shirerithian (Hominid) 164,060
Total 4,008,765
Excepting the river trade on the Red Elwynn, for which it is in bitter competition with the ESB dominated city of Teldrin, the economy of Tyrelwynn rests predominantly upon subsistence agriculture, forestry, animal husbandry and border reiving.
The Ravenscloak referred to in Lord Finan's surname refers to a family heirloom dating back to the last siege of Shirekeep.
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The City and Soke of Goldshire Hamlet
- Boreal 2,312
- Elw 655,000
- Goldshirean 2,363,000
- Lunatic 15,211
- Mercajan (Treesian Revivalist) 959,300
- Norse 49,709
- Octalune 22,369
- Other Aliens (Hominid) 301,942
- Other Aliens (Non-Hominid Humanoid) 34
- Other Aliens (Non-Humanoid Hominid) 124
- Other Aliens (Non-Humanoid) 1
- Shirerithian (Hominid) 700,538
- Shirerithian (Revenant) 542
- Storrish-Elfinshi (Froyalandish) 255
- Jingdao Heathens 2
- Llaškari (Euran Babkhi) 4,223
- Babkhi 12,344
Total 5,086,906
The city itself, by being comparatively cosmopolitan, is something of a sanctuary for those non-humans of Shireroth who otherwise tend to receive a nasty shock when they cross the border into Ran.
At the moment the Count of Ran's authority is very much restricted to the Soke of Goldshire Hamlet, a consequence of the neglect and anarchy which allowed the two other lordships to form in the County. Even within the Soke the Count faces near constant obstruction from the Worshipful Guild of Aldermen of the Corporation of Goldshire Hamlet. who continually honk on about the preservation of their ancient, and conveniently codified, liberties.
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The Uí Lysaght Holdings (Lordship of Aurum)
- Goldshirean 3,500,018
- Octalune 12,122
Total 3,512,140
Anyone living in the area who was not of the Uí Lysaght and who had not taken the prudent precaution of sucking on a proffered nipple, has long since fled or been flayed and crucified. It goes without saying that all but the most necessary journeys to Aurum are strongly advised against.
Only the Octalune were spared, on account of their general utility as slaves and scouts.
If there is any form of economic activity in the Uí Lysaght Holdings beyond cattle-rustling and murder, we have yet to hear of it.
Re: The population of Goldshire
Suthergold
Kingsgate
Sutherathasian: 5,394,281
Elwynnese: 2,756,484
Ynnraili: 1,469,747
Lunatic: 137,127
Rathasian: 9,610
Sutherlander: 176
Dsunic: 1,037
Other: 40,640
Total: 9,809,102
Cortallia-Rathwood
Sutherathasian: 3,847,385
Rathasian: 3,750,438
Elwynnese: 123,264
Lunatic: 25,367
Ynnraili: 4,536
Sutherlander: 1,389
Dsunic: 963
Other: 21,468
Total: 7,774,810
Sutherland
Sutherlander: 200 (at any given time)
Other: 33
Total: 233
Underwall
Dsunic: 33,001
Rathasian: 27,524
Sutherathasian: 25,828
Sutherlander: 5,128
Other: 7,119
Total: 100,000
High Harvest
Elwynnese: 8,076
Sutherathasian: 2,954
Sutherlander: 1,476
Other: 603
Total: 13,109
Tephal
Sutherathatian: 429,634
Ynnraili: 428,823
Elwynnese: 117,591
Rathasian: 8,264
Sutherlander: 2,948
Dsunic: 2,306
Rathaian: 1,847
Other: 7,639
Total: 997,052
New Harbor
Ynnraili: 5,238
Elwynnese: 4,196
Sutherathasian: 1,635
Dsunic: 223
Other: 584
Total: 11,876
Roaming/Other:
Total: 19,832
Grand Total
18,928,014
Kingsgate
Sutherathasian: 5,394,281
Elwynnese: 2,756,484
Ynnraili: 1,469,747
Lunatic: 137,127
Rathasian: 9,610
Sutherlander: 176
Dsunic: 1,037
Other: 40,640
Total: 9,809,102
Cortallia-Rathwood
Sutherathasian: 3,847,385
Rathasian: 3,750,438
Elwynnese: 123,264
Lunatic: 25,367
Ynnraili: 4,536
Sutherlander: 1,389
Dsunic: 963
Other: 21,468
Total: 7,774,810
Sutherland
Sutherlander: 200 (at any given time)
Other: 33
Total: 233
Underwall
Dsunic: 33,001
Rathasian: 27,524
Sutherathasian: 25,828
Sutherlander: 5,128
Other: 7,119
Total: 100,000
High Harvest
Elwynnese: 8,076
Sutherathasian: 2,954
Sutherlander: 1,476
Other: 603
Total: 13,109
Tephal
Sutherathatian: 429,634
Ynnraili: 428,823
Elwynnese: 117,591
Rathasian: 8,264
Sutherlander: 2,948
Dsunic: 2,306
Rathaian: 1,847
Other: 7,639
Total: 997,052
New Harbor
Ynnraili: 5,238
Elwynnese: 4,196
Sutherathasian: 1,635
Dsunic: 223
Other: 584
Total: 11,876
Roaming/Other:
Total: 19,832
Grand Total
18,928,014
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Re: The population of Goldshire
If there are other figures for these cities, please let me knowYnnraile
Total: 19,078,273
Holwinn
Total: 14,469, 452
Dense population centers mainly along the Elwynn River, Shirekeep suburbs, and Demonsfall.
Demonsfall
Draconian: 513,458
Ynnraili: 5,194,300
Other: 737, 374
Total: 6,445,132
Timothea
Part of the outer Shirekeep suburbs, highly diverse population.
Total: 531,007
Cabbagefall
Part of the outer Shirekeep suburbs, highly diverse population.
Total: 704,309
Rural residents and small towns
Total: 6,789,004Syrelwynn
Total: 4,608,821
Syrelwynn City
Official ducal capital.
Total: 603,197
Avakair
Part of the New Harbor, Sutherland, combined metropolitan census area.
Total: 10,889
Airle
Wine country, resort town.
Total: 196,401
Sintan
Depopulated under mysterious circumstances.
Total: 47
Rural and small town residents
Total: 3,798,337
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Re: The population of Goldshire
So I see me and Verion are the only ones to have cudgelled grouped the native contingent into a single population category, although as far as Crowsilver is concerned it seems the choice is to be either a human, a serf or a crow.
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Re: The population of Goldshire
Perhaps I should have reminded the Counts that only persons possessing natural personhood according to the law of each county ought to be counted. If crows are considered persons under Crowsilver law, then they will be counted.
NOOR AS-SALAAM BINT DANIYAL UMRA SULEIMAN AYREON-KALIRION IBN AL-MAJEED AL-OSMAN BIN SATHRATI AF ETTLINGUM FREYU UMM ZAHIR AL-DIN OF WAFFEL-PAINE
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Re: The population of Goldshire
Smart birds, crows.
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Re: The population of Goldshire
Goldshire's odd. Crows have legal personhood, but not human slaves.
NOOR AS-SALAAM BINT DANIYAL UMRA SULEIMAN AYREON-KALIRION IBN AL-MAJEED AL-OSMAN BIN SATHRATI AF ETTLINGUM FREYU UMM ZAHIR AL-DIN OF WAFFEL-PAINE
Queen of Goldshire, the Elian Lands, Leng, Elwynn, Amokolia and Uppland
Re: The population of Goldshire
Well, if he's sticking to the canon I (sort of) set, crows and ravens are like gods over there.Noor bint Daniyal wrote:Goldshire's odd. Crows have legal personhood, but not human slaves.
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Re: The population of Goldshire
They are considered sacred and they may not be killed by any man or beast. Their legal status is between Free Man and Serf.Noor bint Daniyal wrote:Perhaps I should have reminded the Counts that only persons possessing natural personhood according to the law of each county ought to be counted. If crows are considered persons under Crowsilver law, then they will be counted.
1.Titus Morvayne, Prefect of Shirekeep, Count of the Skyla Islands
2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
4. Jeremy Harwinsson Archer, super sleuth
2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
4. Jeremy Harwinsson Archer, super sleuth
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Re: The population of Goldshire
Hm, it would then seem we have the following population classes in Goldshire:
The nobility (full rights + privileges)
The free men and women
Beings under protection (full freedom of movement, few political rights, e.g. crows in Crowsilver, foreigners etc)
The serfs (bound to certain lands and lords, but with some rights over their private affairs)
The slaves and chatteled animals (life that is owned by others)
Wild beasts (slaves without legal owner, wildlife)
Other life (bacteria, fungi, algae, plants, etc)
The nobility (full rights + privileges)
The free men and women
Beings under protection (full freedom of movement, few political rights, e.g. crows in Crowsilver, foreigners etc)
The serfs (bound to certain lands and lords, but with some rights over their private affairs)
The slaves and chatteled animals (life that is owned by others)
Wild beasts (slaves without legal owner, wildlife)
Other life (bacteria, fungi, algae, plants, etc)
NOOR AS-SALAAM BINT DANIYAL UMRA SULEIMAN AYREON-KALIRION IBN AL-MAJEED AL-OSMAN BIN SATHRATI AF ETTLINGUM FREYU UMM ZAHIR AL-DIN OF WAFFEL-PAINE
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Re: The population of Goldshire
I'm going to keep the population of Amity as was recorded by Greg:
Amity, Mirioth and So-Sara: 37,705,578
The Royal Government will make some suggestions as to the population of Lunaris, Elsenar and Yardistan - that the Counts can then revise and confirm.
Amity, Mirioth and So-Sara: 37,705,578
The Royal Government will make some suggestions as to the population of Lunaris, Elsenar and Yardistan - that the Counts can then revise and confirm.
Re: The population of Goldshire
Thank you very much!Thorgils Tarjeisson wrote:The Royal Government will make some suggestions as to the population of Lunaris, Elsenar and Yardistan - that the Counts can then revise and confirm.
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