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Re: Constitutional convention

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Results from the strawpoll!



VOTE 1.

Goldshire shall

[1] Remain a grand duchy [Hrykia]
[3] Become a kingdom [Crowsilver, Elsenar, Ynnraile]
[ ] become something else
[ ] I refuse to vote because democracy is an evil Elwynnese custom and must be done away with.

All counts of Goldshire may vote.


VOTE 2.

The succession to the throne of Goldshire shall be succeeded to as follows:

[1] As in Noor's proposed constitution [Crowsilver]
[1] Strictly dynastic [Elsenar]
[ ] By election
[1] As in Noor's proposed constitution but with more safeguards [Ynnraile]
[1] As currently under the Codex [Hrykia]
[ ] I refuse to vote because democracy is an evil Elwynnese custom and must be done away with.

I will interpret these results to make us a kingdom, and to keep the succession rules in the proposed constitution, with adding a definition of bloodsport.
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Re: Constitutional convention

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Current proposal:

Resolved, by the Lords and Ladies Temporal in the High Council of Goldshire assembled, that:

1. The Codes Robust are repealed, with the provision that any provision on them that is not

2. The provisions of the Codes Discretionary are replaced by the Constitution of the Kingdom of Goldshire.

3. The Constitution of the Kingdom of Goldshire is affixed to this Resolution.

Article 1. Division of powers
Section 1. The Kingdom of Goldshire (“Goldshire”) is a state in union with the Elwynnese Union (“Elwynn”) and the Kingdom of Lichbrook (“Lichbrook”).
Section 2. Goldshire’s union with Elwynn and Lichbrook bears the name the Imperial Republic of Shireroth, hereinafter the Union, and is governed by its Charter.

Article 2. The Queen
Section 1. All powers of Goldshire that are not delegated to the Union are vested in the Queen of Goldshire, Noor bint Daniyal Ayreon-Kalirion ibn al-Majeed bin Sathrati af Ettlingum Freyu. In any event that a man shall succeed to the throne, any provisions relating to the Queen shall be read to relate to the King.
Section 2. The Queen exercises her legislative powers with the advice and consent of the High Council of Goldshire.
Section 3. The Queen exercises her executive powers with the advice and consent of her Privy Council.
Section 4. The Queen exercises her judicial powers with the advice and consent of her High Court of Justice.
Section 5. In the event of a demise of the Queen, she shall be succeeded by any person with the strongest unchallenged claim to succession.
Section 6. Rank of claim is defined as follows, from strongest to weakest degree: the child of the Queen, the sibling of the Queen, the grandchild of the Queen, the spouse of the Queen, the sibling of the spouse of the Queen, the Duke, the Count, the Priest of the Holy Church of the Divine Icebear, the Metrobosarch of Benacia, the Sagart of Eliria, the Commoner of Goldshire, the Elwynnese or Lichbrooker, the Foreigner, and the Alien..
Section 7. Any person who has any claim to succession shall have the right to challenge any person with a stronger claim to a duel, provided that the person with the weaker claim is no further away than three degrees of strength from the one with the stronger. Any duel shall be conducted in person and to death according to the Rules of a Royal Decree, unless otherwise agreed by the claimants.

Article 3. Division of Land
Section 1. Goldshire is a feudal state. It is divided into the following counties, each being of separate legal jurisdiction unless joined in a duchy:
• Amity, Mirioth and So-Sara
• Crowsilver
• Elsenar
• Holwinn
• Lunaris
• Ran
• Suthergold
• Syrelwynn
• Yardistan
Section 2. In the event that more than one county is governed by the same Count or Countess, then these counties shall form one duchy, being of one legal jurisdiction.
Section 3. Each legal jurisdiction is equal to the other in rights. Each legal jurisdiction is governed by its own laws, unless superseded by the Queen’s motion, and its head of government shall be its Count or Countess, or in the case of a duchy, its Duke or Duchess.

Article 4. High Council of Goldshire
Section 1. Members of the High Council of Goldshire are those counts, countesses, dukes and duchesses of Goldshire who hold their titles by their own right. They are Lords and Ladies of Council.
Section 2. All new laws, other than by provisions of the Codex Aureus or this Constitution are established in any other way, that apply to all of Goldshire must meet the consent of the High Council to be valid and enforceable.
Section 3. The Queen shall preside over the High Council unless she elects to appoint someone else to do so.

Article 5. Privy Council
The Queen may appoint a Privy Council to perform such tasks and advice on such matters that the Queen requires in her executive dealings.

Article 6. High Court of Justice
Whenever a case of law, that is not delegated to the judicial authorities of the Union, requires settlement, the Queen sits as High Judge of Goldshire, to be assisted by two members of the High Council, who are elected to the Court by the High Council.

Article 7. Continuation of law
Any law that is removed from the Codex Aureus by this Constitution (or the Resolution that created it) shall nonetheless remain in force unless repugnant to this Constitution.

Article 8. Amendment
The Constitution is amended in accordance with the provisions of the Codex Aureus. Any amendment shall be proposed to the High Council for its advice prior to enactment.
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Re: Constitutional convention

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As I said, I prefer "Queen" to be subsituted by "Monarch".
1.Titus Morvayne, Prefect of Shirekeep, Count of the Skyla Islands
2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
4. Jeremy Harwinsson Archer, super sleuth

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Re: Constitutional convention

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As do I.
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Re: Constitutional convention

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Aside from that cosmetic change?
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Re: Constitutional convention

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Current proposal:

Resolved, by the Lords and Ladies Temporal in the High Council of Goldshire assembled, that:

1. The Codes Robust are repealed, with the provision that any provision on them that is not repealed by the Constitution remain in force until explicitly altered by any law.

2. The provisions of the Codes Discretionary are replaced by the Constitution of the Kingdom of Goldshire.

3. The Constitution of the Kingdom of Goldshire is affixed to this Resolution.

Article 1. Division of powers
Section 1. The Kingdom of Goldshire, hereinafter Goldshire, is a state in union with the Elwynnese Union and the Kingdom of Lichbrook.
Section 2. Goldshire’s union with Elwynn and Lichbrook bears the name the Imperial Republic of Shireroth, hereinafter the Union, and is governed by its Charter.

Article 2. The Monarch
Section 1. All powers of Goldshire that are not delegated to the Union are vested in the Monarch, Noor bint Daniyal Ayreon-Kalirion ibn al-Majeed bin Sathrati af Ettlingum Freyu, Queen of Goldshire.
Section 2. The Monarch exercises his or her legislative powers with the advice and consent of the High Council of Goldshire.
Section 3. The Monarch exercises his or her executive powers with the advice and consent of his or her Privy Council.
Section 4. The Monarch exercises his or her judicial powers with the advice and consent of his or her High Court of Justice.
Section 5. In the event of a demise of the Monarch, he or she shall be succeeded by any person with the strongest unchallenged claim to succession.
Section 6. Rank of claim is defined as follows, from strongest to weakest degree: the child of the Monarch, the sibling of the Monarch, the grandchild of the Monarch, the spouse of the Monarch, the sibling of the spouse of the Monarch, the Duke, the Count, the Priest of the Holy Church of the Divine Icebear, the Metrobosarch of Benacia, the Sagart of Eliria, the Commoner of Goldshire, the Elwynnese or Lichbrooker, the Foreigner, and the Alien..
Section 7. Any person who has any claim to succession shall have the right to challenge any person with a stronger claim to a duel, provided that the person with the weaker claim is no further or her away than three degrees of strength from the one with the stronger. Any duel shall be conducted in person and to death according to the Rules of a Royal Decree, unless otherwise agreed by the claimants.

Article 3. Division of Land
Section 1. Goldshire is a feudal state. It is divided into the following counties, each being of separate legal jurisdiction unless joined in a duchy:
• Amity, Mirioth and So-Sara
• Crowsilver
• Elsenar
• Holwinn
• Lunaris
• Ran
• Suthergold
• Syrelwynn
• Yardistan
Section 2. In the event that more than one county is governed by the same Count or Countess, then these counties shall form one duchy, being of one legal jurisdiction.
Section 3. Each legal jurisdiction is equal to the other in rights. Each legal jurisdiction is governed by its own laws, unless superseded by the Monarch’s motion, and its head of government shall be its Count or Countess, or in the case of a duchy, its Duke or Duchess.

Article 4. High Council of Goldshire
Section 1. Members of the High Council of Goldshire are those counts, countesses, dukes and duchesses of Goldshire who hold their titles by their own right. They are Lords and Ladies of Council.
Section 2. All new laws, other than by provisions of the Codex Aureus or this Constitution are established in any other way, that apply to all of Goldshire must meet the consent of the High Council to be valid and enforceable.
Section 3. The Monarch shall preside over the High Council unless she elects to appoint someone else to do so.

Article 5. Privy Council
The Monarch may appoint a Privy Council to perform such tasks and advice on such matters that the Monarch requires in his or her executive dealings.

Article 6. High Court of Justice
Whenever a case of law, that is not delegated to the judicial authorities of the Union, requires settlement, the Monarch sits as High Judge of Goldshire, to be assisted by two members of the High Council, who are elected to the Court by the High Council.

Article 7. Continuation of law
Any law that is removed from the Codex Aureus by this Constitution (or the Resolution that created it) shall nonetheless remain in force unless repugnant to this Constitution.

Article 8. Amendment
The Constitution is amended in accordance with the provisions of the Codex Aureus. Any amendment shall be proposed to the High Council for its advice prior to enactment.
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NOOR AS-SALAAM BINT DANIYAL UMRA SULEIMAN AYREON-KALIRION IBN AL-MAJEED AL-OSMAN BIN SATHRATI AF ETTLINGUM FREYU UMM ZAHIR AL-DIN OF WAFFEL-PAINE
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What happens if two dukes want the throne. Can Equal claims fight for it?
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I support this constitution.
1.Titus Morvayne, Prefect of Shirekeep, Count of the Skyla Islands
2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
4. Jeremy Harwinsson Archer, super sleuth

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Re: Constitutional convention

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Ryker wrote:What happens if two dukes want the throne. Can Equal claims fight for it?
If two people with equal claim want the throne, and no one with a greater claim wants it, then they would have to duel for it.
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Constitutional convention [VOTE]

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Fellow Goldshireans,

By the rules of the current Codex Aureus, fourteen ASC units of time must pass before the presentation of a proposal to amend the Robust Code before it can enter into force.

During the next 14 ASC units of time, I will ask that you approve of this proposal. You have had good time to scrutinize the document and discuss its implications.

The question before you is therefore: Is the below proposal hereby adopted?

Please vote AYE or NAY.
Resolved, by the Lords and Ladies Temporal in the High Council of Goldshire assembled, that:

1. The Codes Robust are repealed, with the provision that any provision on them that is not repealed by the Constitution remain in force until explicitly altered by any law.

2. The provisions of the Codes Discretionary are replaced by the Constitution of the Kingdom of Goldshire.

3. The Constitution of the Kingdom of Goldshire is affixed to this Resolution.

Article 1. Division of powers
Section 1. The Kingdom of Goldshire, hereinafter Goldshire, is a state in union with the Elwynnese Union and the Kingdom of Lichbrook.
Section 2. Goldshire’s union with Elwynn and Lichbrook bears the name the Imperial Republic of Shireroth, hereinafter the Union, and is governed by its Charter.

Article 2. The Monarch
Section 1. All powers of Goldshire that are not delegated to the Union are vested in the Monarch, Noor bint Daniyal Ayreon-Kalirion ibn al-Majeed bin Sathrati af Ettlingum Freyu, Queen of Goldshire.
Section 2. The Monarch exercises his or her legislative powers with the advice and consent of the High Council of Goldshire.
Section 3. The Monarch exercises his or her executive powers with the advice and consent of his or her Privy Council.
Section 4. The Monarch exercises his or her judicial powers with the advice and consent of his or her High Court of Justice.
Section 5. In the event of a demise of the Monarch, he or she shall be succeeded by any person with the strongest unchallenged claim to succession.
Section 6. Rank of claim is defined as follows, from strongest to weakest degree: the child of the Monarch, the sibling of the Monarch, the grandchild of the Monarch, the spouse of the Monarch, the sibling of the spouse of the Monarch, the Duke, the Count, the Priest of the Holy Church of the Divine Icebear, the Metrobosarch of Benacia, the Sagart of Eliria, the Commoner of Goldshire, the Elwynnese or Lichbrooker, the Foreigner, and the Alien..
Section 7. Any person who has any claim to succession shall have the right to challenge any person with a stronger claim to a duel, provided that the person with the weaker claim is no further or her away than three degrees of strength from the one with the stronger. Any duel shall be conducted in person and to death according to the Rules of a Royal Decree, unless otherwise agreed by the claimants.

Article 3. Division of Land
Section 1. Goldshire is a feudal state. It is divided into the following counties, each being of separate legal jurisdiction unless joined in a duchy:
• Amity, Mirioth and So-Sara
• Crowsilver
• Elsenar
• Holwinn
• Lunaris
• Ran
• Suthergold
• Syrelwynn
• Yardistan
Section 2. In the event that more than one county is governed by the same Count or Countess, then these counties shall form one duchy, being of one legal jurisdiction.
Section 3. Each legal jurisdiction is equal to the other in rights. Each legal jurisdiction is governed by its own laws, unless superseded by the Monarch’s motion, and its head of government shall be its Count or Countess, or in the case of a duchy, its Duke or Duchess.

Article 4. High Council of Goldshire
Section 1. Members of the High Council of Goldshire are those counts, countesses, dukes and duchesses of Goldshire who hold their titles by their own right. They are Lords and Ladies of Council.
Section 2. All new laws, other than by provisions of the Codex Aureus or this Constitution are established in any other way, that apply to all of Goldshire must meet the consent of the High Council to be valid and enforceable.
Section 3. The Monarch shall preside over the High Council unless she elects to appoint someone else to do so.

Article 5. Privy Council
The Monarch may appoint a Privy Council to perform such tasks and advice on such matters that the Monarch requires in his or her executive dealings.

Article 6. High Court of Justice
Whenever a case of law, that is not delegated to the judicial authorities of the Union, requires settlement, the Monarch sits as High Judge of Goldshire, to be assisted by two members of the High Council, who are elected to the Court by the High Council.

Article 7. Continuation of law
Any law that is removed from the Codex Aureus by this Constitution (or the Resolution that created it) shall nonetheless remain in force unless repugnant to this Constitution.

Article 8. Amendment
The Constitution is amended in accordance with the provisions of the Codex Aureus. Any amendment shall be proposed to the High Council for its advice prior to enactment.
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Re: Constitutional convention [VOTE]

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The vote ends ASC 6082.

I vote: AYE.
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Re: Constitutional convention

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Aye.
1.Titus Morvayne, Prefect of Shirekeep, Count of the Skyla Islands
2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
4. Jeremy Harwinsson Archer, super sleuth

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Aye.
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Re: Constitutional convention

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PASSED
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