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Trade with Suthergold

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Senators,

I have been approached by representatives of our neighbouring County of Suthergold. They wish to open up routes of trade between Suthergold and Elwynn.

With the rustic and chivalrous feel of the former Goldendowns, I feel that the trade routes could open up for some interesting and educating opportunities.

To make sure this is safe for us, a small number of ports of first entry would be used for trade with Suthergold. I can myself imagine bailwicks in the vicinity of Sutherland and Kingsgate to be of most interest for us, but also any bailiwick on on the Blue Elwynn from Fenririe to Zoroaster, as well as the far southern bailiwicks of Wintergleam from Echo to Ketsire.

Any trade with Suthergold should be regulated to ensure its abidance by the Coordinated Charter and the principles of Guild-led economy.

Should the Senate so desire, I will happily assist in any negotiations with the authorities of Suthergold and, of course, with Goldshire.
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We thank the Senator for bringing this matter to our attention. Was any specific information provided in this request pertaining as to how the exchange of trade goods was to be facilitated, what goods the tribes in the depopulated former Goldendown wish to offer, or what they might reasonably expect or desire in return by way of recompense.

The inflow and outflow of resources would fall within the purview of the Magister of Allocations and Dispersements, Aurangzeb al-Osman, and we can be certain that any Bailiwick or Municipal Corporation caught indulging in unsanctioned monetary transactions would be liable to expect a visitation from his inspectors and a referral of irresponsible speculators and proto-capitalists to the Court of Star Chamber for evaluation and the issuance of appropriate Pastoral Care Orders.

I trust that my fellow Senators will agree with me as to the desirability to referring this matter back to the Court of the Prince for further investigation. As he enjoys presently an Imperial mandate to travel, on account of his present - expanded - duties in Shirekeep, I feel reasonably confident that the Court of the Prince will decide to dispatch the Magister of Conciliation, a certain General Laqi Hyrrion of our mutual acquaintance, to Kingsgate to make contact and follow up these enquiries.

If first contact proves fruitful I am sure that the honourable Senator, in his capacity as Warden of Elwynn Proper will be invited to attend and contribute as necessary.

In the meantime I would ask the honourable Senator to forward to the Magister of Conciliation all the relevant details pertaining to the approach he has received.

His Imperial Magnificence Aurangzeb II Steffki, Kaiser of the Imperial Republic of Shireroth, Thane of the Shirelands, Keeper of the Apollo Legacy, Wielder of the Sword of Vengeance, Grand Master of the Orders of the Dragon, Griffin, Phoenix, and Chimera, Sovereign of the Golden Mango Throne.
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Senators,

I am pleased to report that the Trading Committee have worked out a proposed agreement with the Suthergold authorities, reading
Agreement between the Coordinated State of Elwynn and the County of Suthergold on Science, Education, Construction and Trade

Коомс хоаар Алаярич Адурельион о Кондрич Садеркольион бо ешчу, маадервй, ганезте о хеансай


Article 1: Objectives

The Parties to this Agreement, that is to say the Government of the Coordinated State of Elwynn (hereinafter “Elwynn” and the Government of the County of Suthergold (hereinafter “Suthergold”), shall facilitate links between them in the fields of science, education, construction and trade.

Article 2: Science

A. Elwynn shall establish the Elwynnese Science Fund in the County of Suthergold, and grant the fund annually ten million theoretical florins in resources. Researchers of great merit lawfully resident the territory of Suthergold shall be eligible for application for stipends from the Fund.

B. Elwynn and Suthergold shall establish the Binational Institute of Science (BIS). The BIS shall be maintained equally by the two governments. The aims of the BIS are to support research, discovery and invention in the natural sciences, particularly in biochemistry and medicine. The BIS shall have its educational and theoretical centre in Zoroaster and its laboratories in Kingsgate.

Article 3: Education

A. Elwynn shall, through the People's Academy of Elwynn, grant academies of higher learning in the territory of Suthergold access to the educational intranet of the People's Academy of Elwynn.

B. The People's Academy of Elwynn shall establish a campus in Kingsgate and a campus in Cortallia-Rathwood, open for students of any nationality.

Article 4: Construction

A. Elwynn and Suthergold shall undertake building a fixed link, such as a bridge or tunnel, capable of heavy freight traffic and passenger traffic over the White Elwynn between Zoroaster and Kingsgate.

B. Suthergold shall be invited to extend its underground high-speed train network ("the Tunnels") to Elwynn in a manner that is consistent with Elwynnese environmental law.

C. Suthergold shall provide Elwynn with the construction and maintenance of airships for Elwynn’s demand. Suthergold shall be invited to take responsibility for the maintenance of intra-Elwynnese and Elwynnese-Suthergold routes. Suthergold shall give Ryker Airships Co. all contracts under this Article.

Article 5: Trade

A. On an annual basis, Suthergold shall allow Elwynn its precious metals and minerals upon request, provided that such amount shall not extend to over 40 per cent of the annual yield.

B. Elwynn shall provide Suthergold, on demand, 20 000 workers every year. The workers will receive renewable worker's permits effective for ten years . During the time of permit, the workers shall pay any taxes to Suthergold and may not, during their employment in the County of Suthergold, visit the territory of Elwynn or use Elwynnese services without the authorization of accredited agents of both governments of Elwynn and Suthergold.

C. Elwynn shall allow gricultural products from the territory of Suthergold to be available for Elwynnese customers on the same conditions as agricultural products grown and produced within the territory of Elwynn.

D. Suthergold shall grant ships registered in the Elwynn augmented navigational rights along Kingsweep Crossing. Elwynn shall grant ships registered in Suthergold navigational rights (of equal benefit) on the parts of the White Elwynn north of Fenririe. The exercise of this section must be performed in accordance with the purposes of this agreement.

E. For the purposes of this Agreement, Elwynn shall designate the bailiwicks of Fenririe, Kaidere, Kaljandare, Ketsire, Mikkelsvik, Monare and Zoroaster as ports of first entry, and Suthergold shall designate the regional authorities of Kingsgate, Sutherland, and Tephal as ports of first entry.

Article 6: Port of Tephal

Tephal shall be considered a “free port” without any import or export dues or tolls, and the city shall be open for all Elwynnese and Goldshirian citizens alike for domicile and work (irrespective of any other article in this Treaty).

Article 7: Final provisions

A. This Agreement shall be valid for a period of ten Elw years (305 ASC units of time) after which it may be renewed for another ten Elw years.

B. The Agreement enters force upon the exchange of ratification of the same by both Parties (including the assent of the Duke of Goldshire).


In witness whereof, agents for the government of the Coordinated State of Elwynn and for the government of the County of Suthergold, duly authorized, have signed this agreement:

For the Coordinated State of Elwynn
Нер Алаярич Адурельион:



For the County of Suthergold:


.
If the Senate finds pleasure in this, I would ask for the Court of the Prince's authorization to sign it.
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I have had to let go of the services of one of my secretaries, a Meredith Hilolair, 23 from Caligae, who neglected to remind me to copy you in to remarks I made to the Duke of Goldshire after I prevailed upon him to show me an advanced draft of the treaty text:
Tokaray al-Osman wrote:Okay - looking good thus far. Nothing untoward or objectionable, except the tunnels. I think these shall be limited to linking the points of first entry as opposed to burrowing all the way to the capital. Institutionalised state paranoia hasn't gone away you know...(spoken sotto voce in the best Gerry Adam's brogue).

Perhaps modify Clause E of Article 5 to have Zoroaster-Kingsgate and Tephal-Avaldsnes be designated the reciprocal points of entry via the aforementioned underground high-speed train network (thus preserving the Quarantine). Include something nice and fluffy about a civic twinning agreement as well.

I would quite like to see the inclusion of Cash-Amnesty facilities in the Free Ports of Zoroaster and Tephal in view of the non-convertable nature of the Erb and the Theoretical Florin. The Elwynnese Science Fund in the County of Suthergold and the Binational Institute of Science (BIS) would get a 50/50 split of the surrendered funds.

On Article 2(B) I would suggest that the BIS shall be 'resourced' equally by the two governments rather than funded since the Elwynnese economy is de-monetarised. Perhaps Elwynn can provide the Capital Goods and Goldshire the Capital...

On Article 5(C) I would suggest the following wording:
C. The County Suthergold shall make available to the Coordinated State of Elwynn for importation 600,000 tons per annum of grains (grain sorghum and wheat) Hay, cotton-seed, vegetables, peanuts, rice, and soy-beans.
I think that would safely avert any North Korean style famines.
Having re-read this, I would also suggest that on Article 4(C) that "intra-Elwynnese and Elwynnese-Suthergold routes" be replaced with "Elwynnese-Goldshirian routes" as I do not propose to exclude the Guild of Artificers in those Bailiwicks that specialise in aviation manufacturing from the domestic market.

I trust it will be possible to revisit the text with our prospective trading partner.
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I did, in fact, receive said remarks and modified it to more or less what you asked for (or so I thought). As I did fail to yield satisfactory conditions, might I ask that you create your own draft so that the process may be more swift?
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*cough*
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*coughs also*
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Can I fetch you a drink?
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Treesian Red, please... How much have we still got in stock?
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It's Shiraz fortified with cocaine... we're never going to run out of the stuff.
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Ryker wrote:
And that Jimmy, is how the government works...
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So no changes then? Does that mean The signing may proceed?
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Ryker wrote:So no changes then? Does that mean The signing may proceed?
No, with the greatest of respect for your impressive levels of enthusiasm and energy, it means that there is a lack of urgency on my part. I will suggest my alternative wording in the fullness of time.
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Fullness of time indeed. It's been over a century since this topic surfaced.
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Four years.
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