Disposition of the Kaiser

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Disposition of the Kaiser

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Seeing that there was in the SEP no favour of actually reforming the system of disposing the kaiser, we do need to look at the Charter's role in it. I've red-marked two things:
Section F: Deposition of the Kaiser

1. The Kaiser is lawful sovereign of the Imperial Republic of Shireroth;

a) Rebellion against the person of the Kaiser is an unwarranted and unlawful act of Treason against the Imperial Republic and must be punished in accordance with Law;

b) Usurpation of the Office and Title of Kaiser by a private individual without benefit of Authority is Treason against the Imperial Republic and must be punished in accordance with law.

2. Where three or more Imperial States, or two-fifths of the total number of states, whichever is the larger, come together to confer and deem themselves unsatisfied with the performance of the Kaiser then they may publish a Remonstrance addressed to the Kaiser advising him of the causes of their dissatisfaction and the remedial actions necessary for their concerns to be assuaged.

3. If the Kaiser makes a Rescript within forty-eight hours, that is deemed satisfactory by the Imperial States that have issued the Remonstrance then the aforesaid States must make their Submission to the Kaiser who will in return confirm them in their liberties and peace shall reign.

4. Should the Kaiser make an unsatisfactory Rescript that does not satisfactorily address the concerns of the Imperial States that have issued the Remonstrance, or makes no response at all within forty-eight hours, a Council of the Heads of Imperial States, called an Extraordinary Session of the Adelsraad, shall be convened in the Imperial Capital where representatives of the Kaiser and each State may reasonably discuss the concerns of the Complaining States.

5. If the the Extraordinary Session of the Adelsraad either (a) does not conclude with a simple majority decision in favour of either the Complaining States or the Kaiser, or (b) does not conclude within seventy-two hours, then the aforesaid States may declare themselves lawfully entitled to Take up Arms in the Defence of their Ancient Liberties with the objective to Rid the Kaiser of His Evil Advisers. If this occurs each Imperial State may declare whether it is For the Liberties or For the Crown;

6. A state of War shall then be declared by this act and it shall last until the Capitulation of either party;

a) For the Kaiser to be victorious the capital of each Imperial State that has taken up arms against him must have Capitulated;

b) For the Imperial States that have Taken up Arms to be Victorious, the Kaiser must be brought to Surrender the Mango Throne in Raynor's Keep, Shirekeep.

7. The Victorious Party in the War must present to the Landsraad an Act of Attainder for the deposition of the Defeated Party who will swear fealty to the new Kaiser so as to be eligible to receive a pardon and to retain their lands and titles;

a) Those who refuse to swear fealty may, subject to the discretion of the Kaiser and the will of the Landsraad, forfeit their titles and liberties and have their citizenships suspended for a period of thirty days, after which their citizenships and liberties but not their titles are restored;

b) No further penalties against the Defeated Party shall be permitted under Law.

8. If the Kaiser is the Defeated Party in the War then the Chain or Line of Succession is deemed to be broken and the Landsraad must declare the former Kaiser deposed and elect the new Kaiser without reference to the former Line of Succession.
First of all, I think "three or more" should be changed to "two or more", given that there aren't that many states already, and all states are much more than "two thirds". Secondly, we need to clarify what happens when the Adelsraad has voted in favour of the complaining states, or what happens when it has voted in favour of the kaiser.

I would suggest that if the Adelsraad votes with the complaining states, then the Kaiser is removed from office. But to do we we would need a more secure voting process, especially now that we are not that many states about.
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I would suggest if the Adelsraad finds against the Kaiser, the Kaiser gets another chance to make Rescript to assuage it, as is done in point 3 with the complaining States (this latter Rescript could be a traditional last chance for the embattled Kaiser to make a dignified abdication before bullets start flying). If that is unsatisfactory, point 6 would kick in and everyone can get their war on.

I would imagine If the Adelsraad finds in the Kaiser's favour, the case is effectively dismissed with no further action taken by either party.

And yes, trimming down point 2 down to two States would be quite appropriate.
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I don't think the 2 states thing is a great idea. It's much easier to agree with one other person than two. Super-worst case scenario: two stealth-trolls sneak in under new IDs, take over two states, and rebel. Just saying. I'll have to look over this more but I say this is definitely something for the people to decide on. Nice work.
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I propose the following amendment:
2. Where two-thirds of the total number of Imperial States come together to confer and deem themselves unsatisfied with the performance of the Kaiser then they may publish a Remonstrance addressed to the Kaiser advising him of the causes of their dissatisfaction and the remedial actions necessary for their concerns to be assuaged.
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As there seems little more to say about this, would His Serenity consider introducing it to the Landsraad proper?
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Certainly!
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