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[Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Nathan II » Tue May 21, 2019 9:18 pm

A BILL to AMEND the CAPRINE CODE of the
BOVIC EMPIRE of the NATOPIAN NATION
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An Act to Recognize Demesne Union Changes


The following amendments to the Caprine Code are made

Section Sixteen - Demesnes

2.1 The Demesnes of the Empire may form unions for geographic, dynastic, political, and/or cultural convenience. The government of each Demesne must consent to the formation of a union with another Demesne. United demesnes are recognized in the Caprine Code as Demesne Unions. No more than five Demesnes may form a single Union.
2.1.1 Arboria, Transegale, New Aquitane and Universalis are united as the entityDemesne Union known as The Principality of Arboria.
2.1.2 Ziegeland, Tas Neemia, Sororiya, and Alrodey are united as the entityDemesne Union known as the Dynastic Incarnation of the Lands of Flaventia.
2.1.3 Klaasiya is a single Demesne known as the Royal Tsardom of the Marches and the Princely Isle.
2.1.4 Mar Sara is a single Demesne known as the Island of Mar Sara.
2.1.5 Thalassa, St. Andre, New Alexandria, the Free Florian State and Neridia are united as the entityDemesne Union known as Most Serene Union of the Demesnes Dos Gardenias.
2.1.6 Massat and Opaeghia are united as the entityDemesne Union known as the West Tapfer Federation.
2.1.7 Normark Proper, Elijah's Rest, and the Two Martyrs are united as the entityDemesne Union known as the Kingdom of Normark. The Throne of the Kingdom of Normark is vested in the Patriarch/Matriarch of the House of Ayreon-Kalirion.
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Li Naomiai » Tue May 21, 2019 10:03 pm

Makes sense, no objections to the principle.

But for economic reasons I think it would make more sense to group the Two Martyrs in a demesne union with Mar Sara.
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Nathan II » Wed May 22, 2019 8:17 pm

Eiiard Darkroot wrote:
A BILL to AMEND the CAPRINE CODE of the
BOVIC EMPIRE of the NATOPIAN NATION
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An Act to Recognize Demesne Union Changes


The following amendments to the Caprine Code are made

Section Sixteen - Demesnes

2.1 The Demesnes of the Empire may form unions for geographic, dynastic, political, and/or cultural convenience. The government of each Demesne must consent to the formation of a union with another Demesne. United demesnes are recognized in the Caprine Code as Demesne Unions. No more than five Demesnes may form a single Union.
2.1.1 Arboria, Transegale, New Aquitane and Universalis are united as the entityDemesne Union known as The Principality of Arboria.
2.1.2 Ziegeland, Tas Neemia, Sororiya, and Alrodey are united as the entityDemesne Union known as the Dynastic Incarnation of the Lands of Flaventia.
2.1.3 Klaasiya is a single Demesne known as the Royal Tsardom of the Marches and the Princely Isle.
2.1.4 Mar Sara, and Two Martyrs are united as the Demesne Union known as the Mar Sara-Mar-Asara Cooperative
2.1.5 Thalassa, St. Andre, New Alexandria, the Free Florian State and Neridia are united as the entityDemesne Union known as the Most Serene Union of the Demesnes Dos Gardenias.
2.1.6 Massat and Opaeghia are united as the entityDemesne Union known as the West Tapfer Federation.
2.1.7 Normark Proper, and Elijah's Rest are united as the entityDemesne Union known as the Kingdom of Normark. The Throne of the Kingdom of Normark is vested in the Patriarch/Matriarch of the House of Ayreon-Kalirion.
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Ernesto de la Cruz » Thu May 23, 2019 3:19 pm

I am not sure that I could support an actual cap or limit to how many demesnes can be in a Union. I just prefer to leave that up for interpretation of the Government in extreme or unusual circumstances.
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Nathan II » Wed May 29, 2019 8:27 pm

The suggestion for a cap would be to prevent a demesne union from assembling a large collection of small demesnes and possibly gaining a majority in the Frenzy. Merely a safeguard that probably won't ever happen.
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Nathan II » Thu May 30, 2019 7:41 pm

Nathan II wrote:
Eiiard Darkroot wrote:
A BILL to AMEND the CAPRINE CODE of the
BOVIC EMPIRE of the NATOPIAN NATION
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An Act to Recognize Demesne Union Changes


The following amendments to the Caprine Code are made

Section Sixteen - Demesnes

2.1 The Demesnes of the Empire may form unions for geographic, dynastic, political, and/or cultural convenience. The government of each Demesne must consent to the formation of a union with another Demesne. United demesnes are recognized in the Caprine Code as Demesne Unions.
2.1.1 Arboria, Transegale, New Aquitane and Universalis are united as the entityDemesne Union known as The Principality of Arboria.
2.1.2 Ziegeland, Tas Neemia, Sororiya, and Alrodey are united as the entityDemesne Union known as the Dynastic Incarnation of the Lands of Flaventia.
2.1.3 Klaasiya is a single Demesne known as the Confederate States of Klaasiya.
2.1.4 Mar Sara, and Two Martyrs are united as the Demesne Union known as the Mar Sara-Mar-Asara Cooperative
2.1.5 Thalassa, St. Andre, New Alexandria, the Free Florian State and Neridia are united as the entityDemesne Union known as the Most Serene Union of the Demesnes Dos Gardenias.
2.1.6 Massat and Opaeghia are united as the entityDemesne Union known as the West Tapfer Federation.
2.1.7 Normark Proper, and Elijah's Rest are united as the entityDemesne Union known as the Kingdom of Normark. The Throne of the Kingdom of Normark is vested in the Patriarch/Matriarch of the House of Ayreon-Kalirion.

Removed the cap and changed Klaasiya's name in anticipation.
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Li Naomiai » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:53 pm

Move to vote!
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Gwyn Moonoak » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:10 pm

Seconded.

Aye.
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Nathan II » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:45 pm

Eiiard Darkroot: Aye
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Ernesto de la Cruz » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:46 pm

Aye.
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Sprocket » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:47 pm

Lords and Ladies of the Frenzy,

Voting will end on Wednesday.
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Sprocket » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:54 pm

Voting has ended and this has passed. It will be presented for Imperial Assent.
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Re: [Bill] Demesne Unions Clarification

Post by Sprocket » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:03 pm

Assent granted, Code has been amended.
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