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Musican Defence Force OrBat

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MUSICAN NAVY

SHIRE SEA ORCHESTRA
Cost: 27,900 pts

OVERTURE BATTLE ENSEMBLE
Percussion Task Section
-Tympanum Squadron
+MDS Drums In The Deep* [1000 pts - Hover Kitty-class Aircraft Carrier]
-Bass Squadron
+MDS Ayreon [5000 pts - Yvain-class Battleship]
+MDS Tempus [5000 pts - Yvain-class Battleship]


Brass Task Section
-Horn Flotilla
+MDS Raynoria [1000 pts - Aurangzeb-class Destroyer]
+MDS Machinaria [1000 pts - Aurangzeb-class Destroyer]

-Trumpet Flotilla
+MDS Yardistan [2500 pts - De Drie Hertogdommen-class Cruiser]
+MDS Brookshire [2500 pts - De Drie Hertogdommen-class Cruiser]
+MDS Kildare [2500 pts - De Drie Hertogdommen-class Cruiser]


SCHERZO TASK ENSEMBLE
String Task Section
-Viola Flotilla
+MDS Deep Trouble [1000 pts - Asleep-class Nuclear Submarine]
+MDS Wave Manifold [1000 pts - Asleep-class Nuclear Submarine]
+MDS Much Rejoicing [1000 pts - Asleep-class Nuclear Submarine]

-Cello Flotilla
+MDS Discontinuity [1000 pts - Asleep-class Nuclear Submarine]
+MDS Unspeakable Horror [1000 pts - Asleep-class Nuclear Submarine]
+MDS Gensym [1000 pts - Asleep-class Nuclear Submarine]


Woodwind Task Section
-Clarinet Flotilla
+MDS Rutaus [100 pts - Elwynn-class Corvette]
+MDS Penryn [100 pts - Elwynn-class Corvette]
+MDS Segovia [100 pts - Elwynn-class Corvette]
+MDS Torat [100 pts - Elwynn-class Corvette]
+MDS Horjin [100 pts - Elwynn-class Corvette]

-Oboe Flotilla
+MDS Alexandretta [100 pts - Elwynn-class Corvette]
+MDS Gatonia [100 pts - Elwynn-class Corvette]
+MDS Ankh [100 pts - Elwynn-class Corvette]
+MDS Kelbia [100 pts - Elwynn-class Corvette]

-Flute Flotilla
+MDS Iridescent Fulcrum [100 pts - Diana-class Minesweeper]
+MDS Tapped Prow [100 pts - Diana-class Minesweeper]
+MDS Confused Signaller [100 pts - Diana-class Minesweeper]
+MDS Intrepid Searcher [100 pts - Diana-class Minesweeper]
+MDS Regretful Mother [100 pts - Diana-class Minesweeper]


*The Air Arm's Cymbal Strike Wing is permanently attached to the MDS Drums In The Deep.


MUSICAN NAVY AIR ARM
Cost: 22,070 pts

Cymbal Strike Wing
-Swish Squadron
+10x Bomber Jets [10000 pts - Big Badaboom]
-Crash Squadron
+10x Fighter Jets [5000 pts - GC-Fighter]
-Clash Squadron
+10x Fighter Jets [5000 pts - GC-Fighter]
-Bell Squadron
+18x Attack Helicopters [1350 pts - Dromosker]
+12x Multi-purpose Helicopters [720 pts - Mondesian]



DIRIGENT'S MARINE BRIGADE
Cost: 16,800 pts

1st "Little" Regiment
I Regiment Marines - 1200 Fighting troops
-1st Battalion
+I Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+II Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+III Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+IV Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+V Company [Logistical & Equipment, Support Staff - 0 pts]

-2nd Battalion
+I Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+II Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+III Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+IV Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+V Company [Logistical & Equipment, Support Staff - 0 pts]


2nd "Ring" Regiment
II Regiment Marines - 1200 Fighting troops
-1st Battalion
+I Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+II Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+III Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+IV Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+V Company [Logistical & Equipment, Support Staff - 0 pts]

-2nd Battalion
+I Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+II Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+III Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+IV Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+V Company [Logistical & Equipment, Support Staff - 0 pts]


3rd "Middle" Regiment
III Regiment Marines - 1200 Fighting troops
-1st Battalion
+I Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+II Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+III Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+IV Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+V Company [Logistical & Equipment, Support Staff - 0 pts]

-2nd Battalion
+I Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+II Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+III Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+IV Company [150 Marines - 450 pts]
+V Company [Logistical & Equipment, Support Staff - 0 pts]


4th "Index" Regiment
I Commando Regiment - 1200 Fighting troops
-1st Harp
+I Company [150 Special Forces - 750 pts]
+II Company [150 Special Forces - 750 pts]
+III Company [150 Special Forces - 750 pts]
+IV Company [150 Special Forces - 750 pts]
+V Company [Logistical & Equipment, Support Staff - 0 pts]

-2nd Harp
+I Company [150 Special Forces - 750 pts]
+II Company [150 Special Forces - 750 pts]
+III Company [150 Special Forces - 750 pts]
+IV Company [150 Special Forces - 750 pts]
+V Company [Logistical & Equipment, Support Staff - 0 pts]


5th "Thumb" Regiment
Command Support Regiment
-Brigade Staff Squadron
-Signals Squadron
-Support Squadron
-Logistics Squadron


TOTAL COST: 66,770 pts
All point scores refer to Anunia+.
Vilhelm Benkern DEOMI, Member of the Order of the Dragon, Silver Swan, Red Dragon
Dirigent of Musica, Count of Mar Sara
In Aryasht Prapta Vrteti, former Prince of Aryasht; Zaila Vrteti, Norfolknath
In Elwynn Benjamin Sebasokrator Timothy Quentin Kern, Duke of Raikoth
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Re: Musican Defence Force OrBat

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Question, how do the point scores in Anunia+ work?

Love the names like "orchestra", "section", etc. and imagine the 1812
Overture playing while Musica does battle.

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Re: Musican Defence Force OrBat

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Thadeus, if you follow the link you'll find the whole Anunia+ charter, but for your reference here's the relevant section concerning point scores:
Infantry = Light Infantry - 1 - (no special training or equipment)
Paratroops - 3 - (akin to the 81st and 101st Airborne)
Marines - 3 - (More relative to the British Royal Marines than the US Marine Corps)
Special Forces - 5 - (US SEALS and SAS)
APC = 15 (This does NOT include IFVs) - (German Boxer or Russian BTR-60)
Armour = Main Battle Tank - 50 - (M1A2 Abrams or UK Challenger II)
Infantry Fighting Vehicle - 40 (US Bradley or UK Warrior)
Light Tank - 35 - (US M551 Sheridan or equivalent)
Reconnaissance Tank - 30 - (British Scimitar Tank)
Armoured Artillery - 25 - (M109A6 Paladin or British AS-90s)
Armoured Anti-Air - 20 - (US Avenger Air Defence System or ALVIS Stormer HVM)
Towed Artillery pieces - 10 - (L118 Light Gun and Towed Anti-Air System)
Multi-Purpose Helicopter = 60 - (Huey - UH-1 Iroquois)
Attack Helicopter = 75 - (Apache Helicopter)
Bomber = 1,000 - (US B-52 Bomber)
Fighter = 500 - (Eurofighter, no stealth capabilities)
Stealth Fighter = 1, 200 (A standard fighter with stealth)
Stealth Bomber = 5,000 (Equivalent to the US B-2 Bomber)
Battleship = 5,000 - (USS Iowa, with moderate anti-air defences and conventionally powered)
Carrier = 1,000 - (This does NOT include Aircraft) (non-nuclear powered AC capable of carrying 85 aircraft (NOT ALL ARE COMBAT REMEMBER PEOPLE))
Diesel Sub = 500 - (Soviet Kilo Class)
Nuclear powered submarine = 1,000 - (US Virginia Class and British Astute Class)
Submarine capable of ICBMS = 1,500 - (British Vanguard Class)
Destroyer/Frigate = 1,000 - (British Type 45 Destroyer or British Type 23 Frigate)
Cruiser = 2,500 - (No modern day Navies operate conventional cruisers so I'm saying we use the De Zeven Provincien Class the Dutch created, the British Tiger Class or the US Alaska Class and limited VLS or box launcher capability)
Corvette/Minesweeper = 100 - British River Class.
Cruise missile: 10 (BGM-109 Tomahawk, anything supersonic or over 1000km range)
Short-range cruise missile: 5 (AGM-84 Harpoon, anything subsonic and below 1000km range)
ICBM: 25,000.
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Dirigent of Musica, Count of Mar Sara
In Aryasht Prapta Vrteti, former Prince of Aryasht; Zaila Vrteti, Norfolknath
In Elwynn Benjamin Sebasokrator Timothy Quentin Kern, Duke of Raikoth
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I will be assigning valid price ranges in Erb to all of the above pieces of
defense related materiel.

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Category Item Min. Price Bought New (Erb)
------------ ---------------------- -----------------------------
Defense Main Battle Tank 649.7559168
Defense Infantry Fighting Vehicle 600.9408659
Defense Light Tank 573.5014985
Defense Reconnaissance Tank 543.3794134
Defense Armoured Artillery 509.7881598
Defense Armoured Anti-Air 471.4886471
Defense Towed Artillery pieces 369.9224949
Defense Multi-Purpose Helicopter 692.570006
Defense Attack Helicopter 748.8281872
Defense Bomber 1854.004319
Defense Fighter 1454.622306
Defense Stealth Fighter 1976.169434
Defense Stealth Bomber 3256.493705
Defense Battleship 3256.493705
Defense Carrier 1854.004319
Defense Diesel Sub 1454.622306
Defense Nuclear powered submarine 1854.004319
Defense Submarine capable of ICBMS 2136.69573
Defense Destroyer/Frigate 1854.004319
Defense Cruiser 2554.993176
Defense Corvette/Minesweeper 828.1533089
Defense Cruise missile 369.9224949
Defense Short-range cruise missile 290.2353069
Defense ICBM 5719.917231
Defense APC 426.3268469

Prices based on this conversion:

Step One: ANUNIA+ points rating of Nuclear Powered Sub made equivalent
to USD price of 2010 nuclear sub purchased by India

Step Two: USD price of 2010 nuclear sub purchased by India then divided
by 1000 to obtain 1 ANUNIA point = 2,900,000 USD
Multiplied the ANUNIA points for each item times that amount to get their
equivalent USD amounts, then decreased each amount by 25% to get
the minimum sale price in USD. Note: This is the minimum sale price for the item if it is
brand new under the Standardized Price system.

Step Three: Converted each price in USD to SCUE using Andreas' formula
of x^0.35
Yes, this is all done by spreadsheet.
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Re: Musican Defence Force OrBat

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Go on then, leaving aside the futility of purchasing something for which the points entitlement has already been bestowed to the player. How did you build those prices? What's your break-even point? What's the margin of profit you are looking for? Will there be price breaks for bulk purchases?
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How much of the price is pure profit?

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Tokaray wrote: Go on then, leaving aside the futility of purchasing something for which the points entitlement has already been bestowed to the player. How did you build those prices? What's your break-even point? What's the margin of profit you are looking for? Will there be price breaks for bulk purchases?
A range of allowed prices from minimum price to maximum price was
created by subtracting 25% of the median price (in USD) from the median price in
to create the minimum price for which the item may be sold and by adding
25% of the median price to the median price in USD to create the maximum
price for which the item may be sold. The item can be sold anywhere within
this range. Therefore, any break even point, margin of profit, or price breaks
for non-used items for sale would be based on prices within that range.
Kaiser Aiomide wrote:How much of the price is pure profit?
The seller of the item would decide how much of the price
would be for profit.

A detailed listing of the various ranges is located here:

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=1 ... PuvNEojH_w

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Donated to Iteru by the Imperial Republic of Shireroth as an expression of gratitude for the island's contributions in the War of Lost Brothers, 1659.

(The ships &etc can be renamed to whatever is culturally appropriate down this way)

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I thank you on behalf of His Majesty the Pharaoh.
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