EXAMPLEWAR - FIXES WE NEED COMING OUT OF THE,

[Bayen]

Harvey: I don't know about you, but I don't think it's the worst thing ever if a defensive strategy is easier to pull off. I know I won't go for that all the time, because it doesn't sound like fun, but there are folks who might have trouble getting on often enough to maintain an aggressive strategy, and it'd be nice if they didn't have to work harder than everyone else.

Nargoth: I forget the original purpose of resupply, but the point is that it works for movement. And if Harvey's right about the attrition strategy being really good in this system, people shouldn't get knocked out of the war too early unless they take the offensive.

[Andreas the Wise]

Remember in your thinking another two things:
1. This system is better suited to tactical goals than last man standing.
Which means that trying to do heaps of damage isn't necessarily good for you in winning the war, and isn't necessarily good for you in the system in general. If your goal is to control particular cities, or capture a particular weapon, then you would be stupid to waste all your orbat just taking people out.
2. Normally, our armies will be bigger IC.
I basically ignored IC stuff for this war, apart from standard conversations between my commander and someone else. And this was meant to be a small war - you know, a thousand men or something. But normally we might be looking at 50 thousand or a hundred thousand. When you have your 1000 points worth 100 thousand men, you won't have a 1000 point mage. You won't have a 200 point Kraken. Those sort of high-point units will be much smaller points because IC they fit much smaller. And so I think naturally we'll do smaller attacks, and it'll work better. I hope.
Nargoth certainly reminded me that the IC stuff is important for alliances etc in proper wars.

[Nargoth]

Is it possible to do a feint in this system?

as in make the opponent think your attacking but then pull back your attack/not hit as hard?

[Bayen]

You can't lie about the points put into your attack, no. You can be subtle about it and act in a way where your opponent *thinks* you're going to attack (massing troops outside their city, for example), and then do something completely different (teleport them to another enemy's base and full-on assault there).

[Demon of Fides]

Bayen, I think that's more mindf*cking one opponent then simply attacking another at full strength. The more useful kind would be the ability to set off explosives at one end of the base, then attack the other, or maybe create an illusion of a bombing run from the east (which you report as a bombing run from the east in the thread) but PMing the judge that the planes are illusory and your real army is attacking the east.

[Gerk]

This is why you do battle in parts in this system. Make your first attack so that it is a low-cost explosion at one end of the base, then when they're done responding to that, attack at the other end with a large assault.

[Andreas the Wise]

STOP REVEALING ALL MY NEW STRATEGIES!

[Andreas the Wise]

Had a relatively productive chat with Bayen and Gerk. My latest magical strategy is still too overpowered, apparently But we had some good ideas about orbatting unit/scenario oriented tactics modifiers in in a balanced way pre-war, which Bayen will explain further when he rewrites the system. And he's promise me lots of examples, including magic ones. And I may get around to writing a "Fighting against magic" guide to help you know a few simple things to put in your orbat for basic magical defence (rather like I have in my head a few things to put in my orbat for basic non-magical defence, including "Have AA to deal with planes, and at least one thing to deal with missiles". Yeah - don't know why people think I'm a good recwarrer, my non-magical combat abilities don't rise much beyond that )

[Gerk]

It's because in the past, magic was so overpowered, and it's all you use.

I'm still trying to figure out why people think I'm such a good recwarrer, as I've hardly done well in any war I've been in, due to the fact that people tend to want to take me out first because they think I'm such a good recwarrer. Curious, isn't it?

[Demon of Fides]

A comment Andreas made to me recently went along the lines of "I have no really magical characters anymore, boohoo"

[Nargoth]

I know i always arranged to have gerk taken out first just so he couldnt rally his forces/allies

I mean honestly gerk in the guild war you were the best hope of PBR of actually working together.

[Gerk]

I had absolutely no hope for that war whatsoever, I'll have you know. We were horridly outnumbered.

[Nargoth]

My statement still stands. You were the best hope they had.

[Longbow of Toketi]

i take a fence to that.

[Andreas the Wise]

You weren't PBR, where you? I thought you were always SAS?

[Gerk]

What were you in that war? You were with the Covenant, right?

[Demon of Fides]

SAS disbanded after the first war.

[Longbow of Toketi]

In GW1 there was SAS, and what else?

GW2 was PBR, the durium guild (name?), and... ummm...

actually, i can't really remember who i was with for gw2, only that i mostly holed up in cride >.>

[Gerk]

PBR, CAA, and The Covenant.

Covenant didn't do much until it was revealed that they had secretly allied with the CAA.

[Harvey]

So is this system dead now or what?