Morality
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I never played D&D in secondary school because I was one of the cool kids who kicked the D&D playing nerds' ass.
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2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
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3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
4. Jeremy Harwinsson Archer, super sleuth
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Ludovic:
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Law & Chaos:
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Chaos --- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (15)
Good & Evil:
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Alignment:
Lawful Good ----- XXXX (4)
Neutral Good ---- XXXXXXXXXX (10)
Chaotic Good ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (15)
Lawful Neutral -- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (15)
True Neutral ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (21)
Chaotic Neutral - XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (26)
Lawful Evil ----- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (25)
Neutral Evil ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (31)
Chaotic Evil ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (36)
Law & Chaos:
Law ----- XXXX (4)
Neutral - XXXXXXXXXX (10)
Chaos --- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (15)
Good & Evil:
Good ---- (0)
Neutral - XXXXXXXXXXX (11)
Evil ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (21)
1.Titus Morvayne, Prefect of Shirekeep, Count of the Skyla Islands
2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
4. Jeremy Harwinsson Archer, super sleuth
2.Eki Aholibamah Verion, Queen in the North
3. Ludovic Verion, Lord of Blackstone and Governor-General of the Iron Company
4. Jeremy Harwinsson Archer, super sleuth
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So I’m wondering would Jingdao be considered lawful neutral or lawful evil?
I mean is there even a real distinction between the two?
I mean is there even a real distinction between the two?
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It's more like chaotic evil...
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Well I know that’s not correct because they hold the law and the person who is the embodiment of their law in the highest regard.
If they were chaotic evil there would be no law, no loyalty to the heavenly light. So I’m sure that they’d be in the lawful spectrum.
If they were chaotic evil there would be no law, no loyalty to the heavenly light. So I’m sure that they’d be in the lawful spectrum.
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How do you differentiate between lawful -good, -neutral –evil? Considering that lawful people keep the law in the highest regard no matter what that law is. I would even argue that morality has no place in lawful characters.
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By the way I would think Aurelia is neutral good.
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Its the kind of laws they live by.
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Since Jingdao uses the apocalypse not so much as an ending than as a rather unevenly distributed form of punctuation, let us say that the Heavenly Light is chaotic evil, while his followers are lawful neutral / lawful evil on a sliding scale of indoctrination and complicity.Aurelia Myksos wrote:How do you differentiate between lawful -good, -neutral –evil? Considering that lawful people keep the law in the highest regard no matter what that law is. I would even argue that morality has no place in lawful characters.
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If that was the case lawful characters would just be true neutralRyker wrote:Its the kind of laws they live by.
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Think of it like this: hilter is lawful-evil (by pretty much anyone's standards). He did bad things and justified them through law and order. Meanwhile, someone like a mindless bureaucrat wo just follows protocol is lawful neutral, and a knight in shining armor who lives by a righteous code of honor, humility and tradition would be lawful good.
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Ryker wrote:Think of it like this: hilter is lawful-evil (by pretty much anyone's standards). He did bad things and justified them through law and order. Meanwhile, someone like a mindless bureaucrat wo just follows protocol is lawful neutral, and a knight in shining armor who lives by a righteous code of honor, humility and tradition would be lawful good.
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Thorgils Tarjeisson wrote:Ryker wrote:Think of it like this: hilter is lawful-evil (by pretty much anyone's standards). He did bad things and justified them through law and order. Meanwhile, someone like a mindless bureaucrat wo just follows protocol is lawful neutral, and a knight in shining armor who lives by a righteous code of honor, humility and tradition would be lawful good.Hmm. Something like that. Lawful is lawful and while the intentions of the lawmaker or law enforcer are seldom consciously to cause evil they can be evil in their effect if the effect is to cause deliberate harm to the defenceless or the blameless (excluding the definition of blameless in the Jingdaoese system of morality where anyone who fails to sing hosannas to the Emperor is essentially a baishen (sp)).
Also people remember, morality and good/evil are not universal concepts and are meaningless except for the meaning we personally give to them .
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Useless Godwin's-law invoking (as if that law even has meaning since of course the most salient event of the 20th century is going to cast shade upon all manner of discussions for centuries to come... until something worse happens) relativist.Aurelia Myksos wrote: Also people remember, morality and good/evil are not universal concepts and are meaningless except for the meaning we personally give to them .
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had to think of this vid.
Really the d&d alignment system cannot really be used in real life because people are more complex,
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If by more complex you mean fearful, greedy, hypocritical pleasure seeking meat-sacks... yes, absolutely.Aurelia Myksos wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc8Ubesn9GA[/youtube]
had to think of this vid.
Really the d&d alignment system cannot really be used in real life because people are more complex,
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The trinity of Melanje:
Thadeus Lange Jr is highly lawful good.
Yraite Ergonak is highly neutral good.
Roberto Melanje is highly chaotic good.
Thadeus Lange Jr is highly lawful good.
Yraite Ergonak is highly neutral good.
Roberto Melanje is highly chaotic good.
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Man and I thought my good/evil doesn’t exists statement would be the most depressing dollar store philosophy that would be uttered in this forum
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Roberto Melanje wrote:The trinity of Melanje:
Thadeus Lange Jr is highly lawful good.
Yraite Ergonak is highly neutral good.
Roberto Melanje is highly chaotic good.
Thadeus Lange Jr ishighly lawful goodtrying to turn SCUE into a Ponzi scheme .
Yraite Ergonak ishighly neutral gooda Nigerian... sorry an Arkon... 419 fraudster.
Roberto Melanje ishighly chaotic goodan insane practitioner of cargo-cult science.
(edit: apologies - I got Roberto and Thadeus the wrong way around... now corrected)
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