So, Bastion, huh...

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Rasmus wrote:I would rather see ari use any spare time he wants to spend on micronation on fixing the MicrasWiki...
This. There must be some way to separate wiki accounts from Hub forum accounts, which would essentially allow newer members to edit it freely. I have messaged him at least thrice in regards to this topic (multiple newbies wanting to edit/add content), but haven't even been graced with any replies.

I'm all for an easier-to-update Bastion front page, though, but another wiki would just be superfluous and would become another thing for people to moan about being incomplete...
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Craitman wrote:I'm all for an easier-to-update Bastion front page, though, but another wiki would just be superfluous and would become another thing for people to moan about being incomplete...
My suggestion was to combine the wikis into one, not add another one (which, indeed, would be superfluous). With just one wiki to work on, people could focus their efforts on that and make it top-notch.

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Vlad wrote:
Craitman wrote:I'm all for an easier-to-update Bastion front page, though, but another wiki would just be superfluous and would become another thing for people to moan about being incomplete...
My suggestion was to combine the wikis into one, not add another one (which, indeed, would be superfluous). With just one wiki to work on, people could focus their efforts on that and make it top-notch.
That's what I was saying as well. I don't know why Jonas wants two wikis when we can't even get one up-to-date.
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Jack wrote:
Vlad wrote:
Craitman wrote:I'm all for an easier-to-update Bastion front page, though, but another wiki would just be superfluous and would become another thing for people to moan about being incomplete...
My suggestion was to combine the wikis into one, not add another one (which, indeed, would be superfluous). With just one wiki to work on, people could focus their efforts on that and make it top-notch.
That's what I was saying as well. I don't know why Jonas wants two wikis when we can't even get one up-to-date.
Because the goal of the BastionWiki would be to be used as a site, not a wikipedia. If people want to throw wikis together: do it, but don't nag like you're doing now. I will enjoy myself with the BastionWiki, while you guys are busy doing what you want to do. :wink:
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Takano Myksos wrote:That's what I was saying as well. I don't know why Jonas wants two wikis when we can't even get one up-to-date.
Because the goal of the BastionWiki would be to be used as a site, not a wikipedia. If people want to throw wikis together: do it, but don't nag like you're doing now. I will enjoy myself with the BastionWiki, while you guys are busy doing what you want to do. :wink:[/quote]

Then why a wiki and not just a website? I'd wait and see what you come up with though, but since it will be representing the Bastion Union as a whole, there should be a broad consensus.
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Jack wrote: Then why a wiki and not just a website? I'd wait and see what you come up with though, but since it will be representing the Bastion Union as a whole, there should be a broad consensus.
What is hard to understand when I use the words "it's easy to edit by anyone"? :rolleyes:
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Takano Myksos wrote:
Jack wrote: Then why a wiki and not just a website? I'd wait and see what you come up with though, but since it will be representing the Bastion Union as a whole, there should be a broad consensus.
What is hard to understand when I use the words "it's easy to edit by anyone"? :rolleyes:
You might want to get rid of the condescending tone first, if you want all of Bastion to be on board with this.
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Jack wrote:
Takano Myksos wrote:
Jack wrote: Then why a wiki and not just a website? I'd wait and see what you come up with though, but since it will be representing the Bastion Union as a whole, there should be a broad consensus.
What is hard to understand when I use the words "it's easy to edit by anyone"? :rolleyes:
You might want to get rid of the condescending tone first, if you want all of Bastion to be on board with this.
I'm sorry. Wait a minute while I'm going to throw myself in the dust for you while explaining things a third or even fourth time.


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Vlad wrote:My suggestion was to combine the wikis into one, not add another one (which, indeed, would be superfluous). With just one wiki to work on, people could focus their efforts on that and make it top-notch.
Just to clarify, which wikis would this proposal be combining? MicrasWiki and ShireWiki? If so, then surely the former is already in the right position to be that sole wiki? :)
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Craitman wrote:
Vlad wrote:My suggestion was to combine the wikis into one, not add another one (which, indeed, would be superfluous). With just one wiki to work on, people could focus their efforts on that and make it top-notch.
Just to clarify, which wikis would this proposal be combining? MicrasWiki and ShireWiki? If so, then surely the former is already in the right position to be that sole wiki? :)
Yeah, I think so too. You just have to find someone who is willing to copy info to the MicrasWiki. :wink:
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Well, we should also be copying over the stuff off of SoloralWiki, since that is the most likely candidate to have a short lifespan.

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BTW, I like the improvements made thus far. :up1:

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Vlad wrote:Well, we should also be copying over the stuff off of SoloralWiki, since that is the most likely candidate to have a short lifespan.
I almost forgot about that one. If I remember it right, that wouldn't be too difficult (as there aren't that many pages anyway).
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I'm a bit nervous about this. I've got no problem with a new wiki, but I don't want Shirewiki at least taken down. Over the years too many wikis collapse, and I think it best to leave multiple copies lest things be centralized and lost when/if the "center" fails.

Anyway, let me know where this is, and I'll copy stuff when I have the opportunity.
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As long as the MicrasWiki isn't fixed properly, I would not put too much hope into it.
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Takano Myksos wrote:As long as the MicrasWiki isn't fixed properly, I would not put too much hope into it.
Is there any way we can do what is necessary to fix it? Would anyone be able to persuade Ari to look at it more successfully than my attempts have been? Or could it be possible for him to allow someone else the relevant admin access to get it sorted (Rasmus said he would administrate a new one, so why not have him do that to what we already have in existence, if it's possible)? :)
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Craitman wrote:Is there any way we can do what is necessary to fix it? Would anyone be able to persuade Ari to look at it more successfully than my attempts have been? Or could it be possible for him to allow someone else the relevant admin access to get it sorted (Rasmus said he would administrate a new one, so why not have him do that to what we already have in existence, if it's possible)? :)
Ideally we should upgrade MicrasWiki to the latest stable release of MediaWiki while we're at it; however, my brief research into the extension that allows one to link phpBB3 accounts with MediaWiki accounts indicates that it's not supported on the newer versions of MediaWiki unfortunately.

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Craitman wrote:
Takano Myksos wrote:As long as the MicrasWiki isn't fixed properly, I would not put too much hope into it.
Is there any way we can do what is necessary to fix it? Would anyone be able to persuade Ari to look at it more successfully than my attempts have been? Or could it be possible for him to allow someone else the relevant admin access to get it sorted (Rasmus said he would administrate a new one, so why not have him do that to what we already have in existence, if it's possible)? :)
I asked ari... :herman:

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On the other hand, we should first ask the whole of Micras if they actually agree with upgrading the wiki. You know... because consensus is such an important thing to some of us. :twisted:
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Thanks, Rasmus!

Well, as long as we can iron-out the teething problems with this upgrade and the wiki stays at the same location, I can't imagine there'd be any backlash to making it work better :wink:
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The demand for needless bureaucracy says otherwise! :madviking:
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