How does this work?

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How does this work?

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1. Sure, though you would need to represent an actual nation/region rather than yourselves, and there would be a limit on the amount of SCUE currency you could convert in a given period. If you are really interested, you might try to resurrect Ergonia - or some variant - and seek quasi-membership status with the USSO. By obtaining such status, you would become eligible to receive funds, and to begin investing in not only existing companies, but also in whatever companies you'd want to establish for yourselves.

2. We might talk about that over at the discord server, but for now, the ratio is set at 1 SCUE:100 Credits. This is based on the exchange rate between SCUE currency and the SCX credit. The Policon most definitely reserves the right to adjust this as it sees fit. As of now, we haven't really discussed this aspect of the market.

3. The USSO Common Market is currently home to 23 companies. I invite you to check out everything that is for sale at this link. I think you'll find that much of what you desire is currently available, and what is not already present can be easily added to the market with just a few clicks.

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and seek quasi-membership status with the USSO.
Hmm. We probably should establish some kind of associate status for those who want to participate in some kind of limited form (like Nova England).
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Re: How does this work?

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I absolutely agree. We could perhaps amend the treaty in order to provide a more formal status, with more clearly defined privileges and whatnot.

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Zibertian Kind wrote:I absolutely agree. We could perhaps amend the treaty in order to provide a more formal status, with more clearly defined privileges and whatnot.
Agreed. Any idea about what those privileges should be?
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Re: How does this work?

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Off the top of my head, we could arrange it so that partial-members receive only as much money as they are able to attract in investments. Basically, we could peg the amount of money available to partial members, to a portion value of their companies on the market. This would be in contrast to full members, whose holdings are equal to a set base-line plus imports plus a portion of GDP.

Edit: This is more of a limitation than a privilege, but you catch my drift. It is an example of one way in which we could delineate full members from partial members.

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Zibertian Kind wrote:Off the top of my head, we could arrange it so that partial-members receive only as much money as they are able to attract in investments. Basically, we could peg the amount of money available to partial members, to a portion value of their companies on the market. This would be in contrast to full members, whose holdings are equal to a set base-line plus imports plus a portion of GDP.

Edit: This is more of a limitation than a privilege, but you catch my drift. It is an example of one way in which we could delineate full members from partial members.
Well, in the end the privilege lies in the ability to participate without any real restrictions. A partial member could, for example, not have the obligation to actively support war efforts, etc. (but vice versa can't expect to be defended by the USSO).
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Yep, exactly. In terms of political influence, I'm sure that they'd be able to provide input, but they wouldn't have any role in the ultimate decision-making process. We might create a separate thread in order to discuss an amendment to account for these things.

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Gentlemen, I am saddened to reveal that Flanders, where I had been keeping some of my SCUE money, has become destabilized and, as a result, some of my funds have been lost.

There is a rumor-therefore it may of course not be true- that foreign pillagers, sea-based barbarians from an island in the Great Western Sea, ransacked the Bank of Flanders and took people's funds. Currently my staff are verifying this information in order to determine an appropriate response. I will keep the community posted. Also, if anyone has any information, please let me know. Of course I will use everything in my power to reobtain my money if possible.

Thankfully the pillagers did not take all of my money, in fact I am still richer than most people on SCUE (but no longer Mateo Mattiasen I fear), so I can still continue to live my somewhat lavish lifestyle at Langeways, but it was still a large sum and therefore irritating.

My advice to put your funds in Flanders is reversed; I would recommend putting it somewhere else if possible; however, the options are increasingly limited.
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I propose to avoid our system getting SCUE-poisoning... so let's avoid it like the plague...
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You may go ahead and do that. Why not.
More people leaving SCUE. Yay! :rolleyes:

But be aware that if the rumor is true, the
problem really lies with the government of
Flanders for allowing the barbarians to have
control over their Bank, and NOT with SCUE
itself. :neutral:

You know I'm beginning to think if the barbarians
wanted that SCUE money so bad, then maybe
they have more in common with me than most
of you. An intriguing thought. Perhaps I should
contact them and pursue a bargain. :yaar:

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Flanders doesn't have a government anymore... it's dead, the forum destroyed and the citizens have shattered in the wind.
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Jin San, Diwang of Jingdao, Duke of Kildare

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Jonas wrote:Flanders doesn't have a government anymore... it's dead, the forum destroyed and the citizens have shattered in the wind.
So was it an organized dismantling?
With votes or agreements? Or just
their equivalent of Ari forgot to pay
the web host? Verion was a citizen;
what about him? Were you a citizen?

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Thadeus Laing wrote:
Jonas wrote:Flanders doesn't have a government anymore... it's dead, the forum destroyed and the citizens have shattered in the wind.
So was it an organized dismantling?
With votes or agreements? Or just
their equivalent of Ari forgot to pay
the web host? Verion was a citizen;
what about him? Were you a citizen?
There simply weren't any active citizens anymore and Remus (not Rasmus) did not want to continue paying for the web host. As nobody came forward to takeover, the forum disappeared. Effectively ending what was left of the Dutch sector, and probably the definitive end of Flanders.
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Joseph Bartholomeus des Vinandy-Windsor, Prince-Regent of Batavia
Jin San, Diwang of Jingdao, Duke of Kildare

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Re: How does this work?

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Thank you, Your Excellency. That clarifies the situation
quite a bit.

Indeed, I concur with your opinion the USSO Market may help us eliminate
the problem of unstable SCUE nations that disappear out of nowhere. :doc:

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Re: How does this work?

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I have conducted some additional testing and concluded that
unfortunately the SCUE bank has possibly been compromised
at a higher level.

I propose we sever all links to SCUE.

I understand this is a break
from my past positions, but unfortunately I think we should go
full speed ahead with a fully independent system based on
Zibertian's excellent plans - eliminate exchange rate with SCUE
or make it exorbitantly high to account for the risk involved.

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Compromised by whom?
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Jonas wrote:Compromised by whom?
Please see my private message.

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I propose we sever all links to SCUE.
None of the members of the USSO use SCUE to any extent, so there are no links to sever. If SCUE has been "compromised," it has not bearing on any of us.

With that said, you seem to be sending some new mixed messages here. On one had, Thadeus Laing is saying "sever all ties to SCUE," while on the other Kelli Kaarve is requesting that as member of Jingdao, Ergonia should be allowed to use SCUE. Something smells fishy.

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Oh my! I just found out about Thadeus' accusations!

I believe him! SCUE has issues! But for now Ergonia will keep its account on there, in case SCUE gets its issues get worked out!

Toodles!

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