[TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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[TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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Greetings,

Vosenuvitia in Treisenberg is, like much of that mountainous nation, rich in timber, minerals, and livestock. It is also rich in fish and oil and gas due to its coastal areas. Manufacturing includes chemical production as well as automotive production.

We would like to request official approval of the following:

* The right to utilize ports of Passio-Corum, especially southern Passio-Corum, for refueling stops
* The right to unload (export) products of Vosenuvitia at ports of Passio-Corum
* The same rights at all areas contained within the boundaries of the Greater Pallisican Trade Association

Furthermore we would like to request information regarding:

* The tariff rate if any between Passio-Corum and Treisenberg (and, if there is none, if the tariff can be waived, in recognition of the fact that we plan to make a similar request of Constancia, and Constancia is somewhat of a competitor to Passio-Corum in terms of its ports being located in nearby areas that are important to us)

Thank you for your consideration of this matter.

Regards,
T E'nothwocep
Esubarcn of Vosenuvitia
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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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Welcome,

Regarding the first of your requests, Passio-Corum offers a clear, well-defined platform for those who seek to acquire access to the nation's ports. If you desire such access, then I would encourage you to explore that platform.

Regarding the second of your requests, there is no existing formal tariff rate between Passio-Corum and Treisenberg. I am unclear on what Constancia has to do with anything. They are not a competitor of Passio-Corum in any sense of the word. The only nations which can compete with Passio-Corum are the ones which have something to offer.

In a spirit of friendship,
Zibertian Kind
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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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Ambassador Kind,

We are very impressed. It is no wonder that the Policon, despite some cultural issues that We think should be resolved, is now the premier group for commerce on not just the high seas, but all over the planet of Micras. Who knows, maybe you will be expanding to Tarsica and beyond next, if you have not already! We will review the information you have provided and consult with royal cousin HRH and get back to you. Again, Our initial impressions are very impressive!

Signed,

Wil Laing

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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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Ambassador Kind,

After further consideration, we have decided that with four conditions we are willing to sign onto the Port of Storms. The locations of your ports and the structure of your marketplace are simply excellent for our companies and workers. Here are the conditions:

a) All items put into the Port of Storms, either arriving by ship or invested or assigned through electronic record-keeping system, that originate as property of Vosenuvitia (taken henceforth to also include property of Vosenuvitian businesses and property on Vosenuvitian ships) remain property of Vosenuvitia until a contract of sale is signed off to Port of Storms, an associate of Port of Storms, or the new owner of the property. If no contract of sale is signed off, then that property remains part of Port of Storms. Our merchant marines will have the right to go into Port of Storms facilities or access Port of Storms electronic record-keeping systems and work with Treisenbergan and foreign officials to re-secure all property of Vosenuvitia. All goods represented virtually in a Port of Storms system as the property of Vosenuvitia are in fact the property of Vosenuvitia, even if the Port of Storms system infrastructure is the property of Port of Storms.

b) A special discount of 20% off the average price of fuel for ships on Micras for our ships refueling in your ports.

c) The right to conclude similar agreements such as this with other fic-nations, such as Shireroth and Constancia, and use those agreements.

d) This agreement to be between Vosenuvitia and the Port of Storms only; no pronouncement by some other organization that Passio-Corum is a part of shall cause this agreement to end; only Vosenuvitia or the Port of Storms may end this agreement.

Signed,

T E'nothwocep
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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters - Status Inquiry

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Hello Monsieur Kind,

I seek a status inquiry in regards to the Sea of Storms' agreement to these matters.

Regards,

T E'nothwocep
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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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a) All items put into the Port of Storms, either arriving by ship or invested or assigned through electronic record-keeping system, that originate as property of Vosenuvitia (taken henceforth to also include property of Vosenuvitian businesses and property on Vosenuvitian ships) remain property of Vosenuvitia until a contract of sale is signed off to Port of Storms, an associate of Port of Storms, or the new owner of the property. If no contract of sale is signed off, then that property remains part of Port of Storms. Our merchant marines will have the right to go into Port of Storms facilities or access Port of Storms electronic record-keeping systems and work with Treisenbergan and foreign officials to re-secure all property of Vosenuvitia. All goods represented virtually in a Port of Storms system as the property of Vosenuvitia are in fact the property of Vosenuvitia, even if the Port of Storms system infrastructure is the property of Port of Storms.
The nature of the Pallisican economy is such that any goods which your companies sell through the Port of Storms are the property of the investors whose funding has allowed for the production of them, and who have invested on the basis of being able to receive them. With that said, the companies which you place on the Sea of Storms, which produce the goods that are received by your investors, remain unequivocally yours. Neither Passio-Corum broadly, nor the Port of Storms specifically, makes any claim to any foreign company or brokerage which does business on the Port of Storms. Regarding the latter part of your request, you as an investor shall generally be entitled to the same degree of access to records as any other investor. While Passio-Corum is willing to grant privileges to its trading partners, and to work closely with such partners to resolve potential disputes, it is not willing to assure that you will receive - as a general rule - any type of special access.
b) A special discount of 20% off the average price of fuel for ships on Micras for our ships refueling in your ports.
This could be arranged, but only to the extent that you become an investor in a brokerage which produces fuel. In the event that you are prepared to seek funds, and then to invest those funds in the brokerages whose constituent member companies produce fuel, then such a deal - though unorthodox - could be arranged.
c) The right to conclude similar agreements such as this with other fic-nations, such as Shireroth and Constancia, and use those agreements.
My primary concern is that any similar agreements which you might seek with nations such as those whom you have mentioned would render this agreement rather meaningless. Neither Shireroth nor Constancia - even presumably by their own admission - offer anything comparable to the opportunity which is presented by the Port of Storms. It is not ideal, furthermore, that you should continue to highlight your desire to work with nations who have expressed open and unapologetic hostility against Pallisica's closest allies and trading partners. You are welcome to work with whomever you like. But you should not pretend that any other single nation can offer what Passio-Corum is prepared to offer.
d) This agreement to be between Vosenuvitia and the Port of Storms only; no pronouncement by some other organization that Passio-Corum is a part of shall cause this agreement to end; only Vosenuvitia or the Port of Storms may end this agreement.
Passio-Corum continues to view its commitment to the USSO as a matter of fundamental and guiding principle. In the event that any agreement undermines the viability of that commitment, then Passio-Corum shall seek to alter or terminate that agreement. With that said, no organization, save for the Council of Courts, reserves the ability to define the full extent of Pallisican foreign policy.

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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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Thank you for your comprehensive and insightful response. Several comments/questions:
The nature of the Pallisican economy is such that any goods which your companies sell through the Port of Storms are the property of the investors whose funding has allowed for the production of them, and who have invested on the basis of being able to receive them. With that said, the companies which you place on the Sea of Storms, which produce the goods that are received by your investors, remain unequivocally yours. Neither Passio-Corum broadly, nor the Port of Storms specifically, makes any claim to any foreign company or brokerage which does business on the Port of Storms. Regarding the latter part of your request, you as an investor shall generally be entitled to the same degree of access to records as any other investor. While Passio-Corum is willing to grant privileges to its trading partners, and to work closely with such partners to resolve potential disputes, it is not willing to assure that you will receive - as a general rule - any type of special access.
Can we restrict this to just one investor approved specifically by Vosenuvitia? For instance let us say Ruby Gem Ltd of Constancia wanted to open a mine in Vosenuvitia under a local subsidiary. Can we specifically ensure that only Ruby Gem Vosenuvitia Ltd receives all profits?
Passio-Corum continues to view its commitment to the USSO as a matter of fundamental and guiding principle. In the event that any agreement undermines the viability of that commitment, then Passio-Corum shall seek to alter or terminate that agreement. With that said, no organization, save for the Council of Courts, reserves the ability to define the full extent of Pallisican foreign policy.
TRY Foreign affairs are all handled by HRH of Treiseinberg and/or HRH designated advisor in that area, who is not me. I do think that the foreign affairs aspect would override trade. In general, and perhaps this is revealing my hand a bit, I would prefer to be neutral in trade as far as the whole Policon-versus-Shireroth spat. So I would not let Shireroth force us to dismiss any contact with PSC or Policon in trade. Likewise though the PSC and Policon would have to understand if we would decide, for example, NOT to utilize the Sea of Storms exchange/system to, for instance, sell some of our silver to Shireroth so that they can produce fine dinnerware for their plethora of royals.

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Thulodion E'nothwocep wrote:Can we restrict this to just one investor approved specifically by Vosenuvitia? For instance let us say Ruby Gem Ltd of Constancia wanted to open a mine in Vosenuvitia under a local subsidiary. Can we specifically ensure that only Ruby Gem Vosenuvitia Ltd receives all profits?
This would be accomplished through the creation of a brand new brokerage which exclusively represents all the companies which you personally add to the market. Alternatively you could add your companies to an existing brokerage, in which case you'd be entitled to only portion of the share of the funds which that brokerage attracts.
Thulodion E'nothwocep wrote:TRY Foreign affairs are all handled by HRH of Treiseinberg and/or HRH designated advisor in that area, who is not me. I do think that the foreign affairs aspect would override trade. In general, and perhaps this is revealing my hand a bit, I would prefer to be neutral in trade as far as the whole Policon-versus-Shireroth spat. So I would not let Shireroth force us to dismiss any contact with PSC or Policon in trade. Likewise though the PSC and Policon would have to understand if we would decide, for example, NOT to utilize the Sea of Storms exchange/system to, for instance, sell some of our silver to Shireroth so that they can produce fine dinnerware for their plethora of royals.
The aim of the Greater Pallisican Trade Association is not to dictate how or with whom nations trade, but to help create and support viable, meaningful platforms upon which trade can occur. The nation reserves the right to decide how its market is used, but in general it will not actively seek to discourage you from trading with whomever you like.

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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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Monsieur Kind,

Splendid, then let us sign a basic agreement. Next we can proceed to working out further details.
An Official Trade Agreement between Vosenuvitia of Treisenberg and The Port of Storms of The Greater Pallisican Trade Association.

1. A brokerage will be established in which solely companies approved by the Office of Registrations of Vosenuvitia may participate. This Brokerage will be named "The Port of Storms-Vosenuvitia Brokerage"

2. Ships under the Treisenbergan flag and registered as Vosenuvitian ships with the Office of Registrations of Vosenuvitia shall have the right to refuel at a reasonable market rate at all ports controlled by Passio-Corum and/or The Greater Pallisican Trade Federation and/or Port of Storms.

3. All items put into the Port of Storms, either arriving by ship or invested or assigned through electronic record-keeping system, that originate as property of Vosenuvitia (taken henceforth to also include property of Vosenuvitian businesses and property on Vosenuvitian ships) remain property of Vosenuvitia until a Bill of Sale is signed off to Port of Storms, an associate of Port of Storms, or the new owner of the property. If no Bill of Sale is signed off, then that property remains part of Vosenuvitia. All goods represented virtually in a Port of Storms system as the property of Vosenuvitia are in fact the property of Vosenuvitia, even if the Port of Storms system infrastructure is the property of Port of Storms.

4. The right to conclude similar agreements with, for example, Shireroth and Constancia, and use those agreements.

5. The Port of Storms of The Greater Pallisican Trade Association (including Passio-Corum) and Vosenuvitia will engage in further cooperation in the area of trade and conclude further agreements as necessary in the process.

6. Either party must give 30 days public notice prior to this agreement going out of effect.

Signed The Port of Storms of The Greater Pallisican Trade Association. Representative: __________________________
Signed Vosenuvitia Representative: T E'nothwocep
I humbly await the Passio-Corum signature.

EDIT: Made a few minor changes.
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Entirely OOC:
fic-nation
Must you? It's an in-world treaty arising from a negotiation conducted - mostly - in-character. You don't need to point out that other states are fictional, and set on a fictional world no less, when you are negotiating a fictional treaty.

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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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I have made a few minor changes to the agreement.

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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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Just to clarify, the nation is formally named the 'Greater Pallisican Trade Association,' and is informally named the 'Realm of Passio-Corum,' or the 'Kingdom of New Zimia.' In common usage the nation can also be referred to as 'Pallisica.' This is a general heads up for everyone - not just you - since there seems to be a lot of confusion about this point. The Port of Storms, for its part, is the primary port/commercial center of the Greater Pallisican Trade Association. It doesn't actually have any explicit sovereign rights of its own.

These points are reflected in the modified text below. I have made no changes except to areas where there was apparent confusion about the entity with whom this treaty is being agreed to.

An Official Trade Agreement between Vosenuvitia of Treisenberg and the Greater Pallisican Trade Association.

1. A brokerage will be established in which solely companies approved by the Office of Registrations of Vosenuvitia may participate. This Brokerage will be named "The Port of Storms-Vosenuvitia Brokerage"

2. Ships under the Treisenbergan flag and registered as Vosenuvitian ships with the Office of Registrations of Vosenuvitia shall have the right to refuel at a reasonable market rate at all ports controlled by the Greater Pallisican Trade Association.

3. All items put into the Port of Storms, either arriving by ship or invested or assigned through electronic record-keeping system, that originate as property of Vosenuvitia (taken henceforth to also include property of Vosenuvitian businesses and property on Vosenuvitian ships) remain property of Vosenuvitia until a Bill of Sale is signed off to the Port of Storms, an associate of the the Port of Storms, or the new owner of the property. If no Bill of Sale is signed off, then that property remains part of Vosenuvitia. All goods represented virtually in a Port of Storms system as the property of Vosenuvitia are in fact the property of Vosenuvitia, even if the Port of Storms system infrastructure is the property of the Port of Storms.

4. The right to conclude similar agreements with, for example, Shireroth and Constancia, and use those agreements.

5. The Greater Pallisican Trade Association and Vosenuvitia will engage in further cooperation in the area of trade and conclude further agreements as necessary in the process.

6. Either party must give 30 days public notice prior to this agreement going out of effect.

Signed Greater Pallisican Trade Association Representative: Zibertian Kind
Signed Vosenuvitia Representative: __________

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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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Monsieur Kind,

We affix our signature:

An Official Trade Agreement between Vosenuvitia of Treisenberg and the Greater Pallisican Trade Association.

1. A brokerage will be established in which solely companies approved by the Office of Registrations of Vosenuvitia may participate. This Brokerage will be named "The Port of Storms-Vosenuvitia Brokerage"

2. Ships under the Treisenbergan flag and registered as Vosenuvitian ships with the Office of Registrations of Vosenuvitia shall have the right to refuel at a reasonable market rate at all ports controlled by the Greater Pallisican Trade Association.

3. All items put into the Port of Storms, either arriving by ship or invested or assigned through electronic record-keeping system, that originate as property of Vosenuvitia (taken henceforth to also include property of Vosenuvitian businesses and property on Vosenuvitian ships) remain property of Vosenuvitia until a Bill of Sale is signed off to the Port of Storms, an associate of the the Port of Storms, or the new owner of the property. If no Bill of Sale is signed off, then that property remains part of Vosenuvitia. All goods represented virtually in a Port of Storms system as the property of Vosenuvitia are in fact the property of Vosenuvitia, even if the Port of Storms system infrastructure is the property of the Port of Storms.

4. The right to conclude similar agreements with, for example, Shireroth and Constancia, and use those agreements.

5. The Greater Pallisican Trade Association and Vosenuvitia will engage in further cooperation in the area of trade and conclude further agreements as necessary in the process.

6. Either party must give 30 days public notice prior to this agreement going out of effect.

Signed Greater Pallisican Trade Association Representative: Zibertian Kind
Signed Vosenuvitia Representative: T E'nothwocep

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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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I have started adding your brokerage to the market. Feel free to start adding companies in the format provided. If you'd like help with this, please let me know.

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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters - Suspending Trade Ties

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Thank you. Now, unfortunately, we must request a suspension of our trade ties with Passio-Corum.

This is due to Passio-Corum's membership in the Policon, an organization which has failed condemn its member Apollonia for behaving increasingly destructively and despotically towards its minority groups. We also suspect the Policon is indirectly, if not directly, controlled by Apollonia by virtue of Apollonia's sheer largess and threats of destruction.

We apologies for any inconvenience and reserve the right to reverse this action.

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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters

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Very well. Your brokerage has been removed from the Port of Storms.

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Re: [TRY] Refueling/Export Matters - Suspending Trade Ties

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Yulodion E'nothwocep wrote: This is due to Passio-Corum's membership in the Policon, an organization which has failed condemn its member Apollonia for behaving increasingly destructively and despotically towards its minority groups.
The USSO can assure you that it has expelled the Florian Republic a while back, which oppressed its minority groups (the Xusovars). :twisted:
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